I came across these interesting posts and links today that were about the Albanian Mafis or OC groups that took control of OC world power in Milan back in 2009. They kicked the 'Ndrangheta out of the number 1 position it seems. Does anyone know if this is till true in Milan or for the whole North of Italy now? Are the Albanian OC groups actually more powerful than the 'Ndrangheta now?

http://boards.askmen.com/showthread.php?107505-Albanian-mafia-throws-out-Italian-mafia-families

This is bu*lsh*t,there were same articles how Serbian Mafia threw out 'Ndrangheta etc,sure albanians operate in north italy but with % giving to local mafia groups.They do work together and partnership is really successful(Not only 'Ndrangheta,but Sicilin Mafia too,Sacra Corona Unita,famous Bar-Bari route)Today Turks supply Albanians and Albanians supply Italians with heroin.Albanian Mafia is highly overrated.They are main suppliers of drugs to Balkan,i have friend who is a drug dealer from Kosovo u get 100g of weed for 85 euros,and later here(Belgrade,Serbia) it goes by 1g=5 euros.

Thank you for the reply. Nice to have the opinion of someone actually from the Balkans. So the Albanians never threw the 'Ndrangheta out of power in Milan or anywhere in Northern Italy?

The Albianian work with or to the Ndrangheta,never have tried to took control of Milan,for some reasons

1) The Albanian must fight again Ndranghetà,Mafia,Camorra eSacra Corona Unita men in Milan;
2)if they control the street racket,the mafias has the political link,and the Calabrian control the cocaine trafficking in Italy in most of the Europe;so no coke for his enemy;
3) the other OC group act in the shadow,the albanian don't.
4) also the other criminal group don't let the Albanian or other strangers OC to take control of Milan,if start a war the albanian will be quickly wacked.

Also thank you for the reply. So then the Albanian OC groups never took power from the 'Ndrangheta in Milan and the rest of the Northern Italy correct?

Yes,never took power. Milan and Northen Italy isn't NY,if in the big apple there 5 families,there have the five mafias: Ndrangheta,Mafia,Camorra,Sacra Corona Unita e Stidda, one most danger of other.

You're still calling Stidda one of the main mafias, when most all of it has been absorbed into Cosa Nostra.

"You're still calling Stidda one of the main mafias, when most all of it has been absorbed into Cosa Nostra"

Has anyone ever heard of this mafia group? Are they a viable organization, or will they be absorbed by a larger organization like the Stidda into Cosa Nostra?

http://www.academia.edu/633694/Fifth_Column_Italys_Fifth_Mafia_the_Basilischi

milan is under the control of the ndrangheta and after it mafia, camorra and sacra corona
albanians are active more in central italy nowadays but they are nothing compared to ndrangheta, i mean they have not any politicial power just selling a bit of heroin

Okay interesting thanks again. Why would those articles I linked in my first post then say that the Albanian took over control in Milan and Northern Italy? Do they just not really know anything?

these articles hypes albanians that's coz they said it
ndrangheta is also hyped too in some article anyway
the fact there are albanian immigrants living in north and central italy it doesnt mean they took over, like i said they are sometimes involved in heroin that buy from turks and they sell to italians but no more that this
italian mafias from the south have the real power in north and central italy

Nobody kicked no1 out of Milan....the whole italian mob(camorra,'ndrangheta or lcn)are connected with the albanian clans.They need each other.For example the italian mob uses albanian hitmen on many occasions.The italian mob need the albanians so they can have their own share from the balkan black market.Its the same with the albanians,they need the italian mob,for example distributing marijuana(right now the albanian mob is the biggest smuggler and distributor of ganja in eastern europe)

The albanian mob and the italian are two very similar organizations.They are not far from each other.

albanians have not the muscle to kick out italian mafias from milan
and i've never heard of mafia war between italians and albanians nor in milan or other cities
almost all the murders in milan are done by italian mafias

In Italy,maybe......in the U.S. or other countries,i dont think so

where do you heard of a mafia war between italian and albanians in the us or any other country?
the rudaj clan vs gambinos was not a war just some altercations

Heres a thread that i posted some time ago......

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=678474

Bout the Gambino situation,i think you should check your info again,as for fights in other countries,you can choose for example,Germany or Belgium.As for any other countries,from my point of view,its goin to remain confidential.

but that's talk of some albanians hired by italians to kill somebody it's not a war between them
in italy i heard of albanians killed by the mob but never the contrary, but there were not real wars just isolated incidents

Okay so the 'Ndrangheta and the Albanian OC groups never even fought at all really in Milan and Northern Italy?

NYPD Officer Accused of Helping Albanian Mob Shake Down Astoria Restaurant Owner
By Jonathan Dienst
Dec 3, 2013

An NYPD officer is accused of using his squad car to pull over the owner of a restaurant in Astoria and warning him to start paying the Albanian mob $4,000 cash a month or he and his family could be hurt, law enforcement officials say.

Prosecutors say police officer Bensik Llakatura is heard on tape during the July stop warning the restaurant owner that “these people, they run Astoria.” The officer allegedly told the owner he was “lucky” he survived a previous run-in with an armed associate who had tried to extort him.

The FBI said Llakatura, who is assigned to work on Staten Island, was heard on tape saying, “Make sure you don’t call the cops because if you do, you’re done.” He also allegedly told the owner if he “went into witness protection, they’d go after your family,” according to authorities familiar with the case.

The owner who was threatened, along with a co-owner, told the FBI about the confrontations, and the agency gave them marked cash to make the payoffs.

Llakatura, who allegedly collected $6,000 in "protection" money, was charged with extortion along with two alleged mobsters who are accused of collecting payments totaling $24,000 over a five-month period.

Investigators said there is evidence, including text messages, that the three men tried to extort other area business owners. Both alleged mobsters have previous arrests on extortion-related charges.

“The defendants told their victims they offered ‘protection’ but in reality they peddled fear and intimidation through the Albanian community – their community – in Queens,” U.S. Attorney Loretta Lynch said in a statement.

“Llakatura didn’t serve his community with honor; he instead abused his powers to the detriment of the public trust,” said FBI New York Director George Venizelos.

All three men are expected to appear in federal court in Brooklyn Tuesday afternoon. Attempts to reach their attorneys were not immediately successful.

nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NYPD-Officer-Cop-Shake-Down-Mob-Albanian-Restaurant-Owner-Queens-Cash-234261061.html

oh gosh not this thread again...

NO ONE is pushing out ITALIAN OC GROUPS from Milan!

No Albanians, No Moroccans, No Gypsies, No Romanians not even the antimafia Police for what's matters...

End of it.

Move on.

Nicely said

Alrighty then thanks.

So the 'Ndrangheta and other Italian OC groups still completely control the prostitution and drug rackets in Milan and the rest of Northern Italy correct?

OMG,sorry but are you going to ask same question 3 times?!

YES they are.

Thanks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stidda
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilischi

''The Basilischi are a criminal organization founded in 1994 in Potenza, and has since expanded into the rest of Basilicata. This organization has taken the control of illegal activities in the region.
Thanks to interceptions, and the intervention of the State, April 22, 1999 all the leaders of this organization were arrested.
Since then, according to the national anti-Mafia prosecutor, organized crime areas of Matera, the Val d'Agri and Melfi are controlled by gangs that are headed by the 'Ndrangheta of Rosarno.''

The Basilischi was active from 1994 to 1999

Carmela here the Stidda,The relationship between the Stidda and Cosa Nostra is like that between the Tongs and the Triads.

La Stidda (Sicilian for "star") is a name for Mafia-type criminal organizations centered in Gela, Sicily, in Italy. Members are known as stiddari or stiddaroli. It is most active in the rural parts of southern Sicily and is partially a rival to Cosa Nostra. Apparently some members tattooed a star on their bodies.[1]
Little is known of the origins of the organization, though it is believed to have come about in a similar fashion to the Mafia, in the same rural environment of Sicily. Unlike the Mafia, however, the Stidda was mostly rural and low-profile until the 1980s, when it became somewhat more expansionist and started moving into the cities, bringing the two Sicilian groups into competition with one another. It differs from the Mafia by the fact that it is not based on an honor system but is interested only in criminal activities and the resulting profits.[1]
The Stidda came into public view when Cosa Nostra pentito Francesco Marino Mannoia spoke about it in 1989. Later another Mafia member Leonardo Messina[2] told his own view. According to their testimonies, Stidda is an organisation that was founded by former members of the Cosa Nostra during the Second Mafia War of the early 1980s. They had been expelled due to disobedience or, in a couple of cases, even marrying a relative of a police officer. Many of the original stiddari were followers of the murdered Mafia-boss Giuseppe Di Cristina.
The Stidda was particularly strong in southern Sicily around the towns of Agrigento, Caltanissetta and Gela.[1] The original leaders of the Stidda were Giuseppe Croce Benvenuto and Salvatore Calafato. A dynamite bomb later killed Stidda boss Calogero Lauria. They were involved a more direct war with the Mafia in the early 1990s. The vicious war led to over 300 deaths.One of this was the judge Rosario Livatino.
Stidda is not a tight organization and many gangs ("clans") operate relatively independently. They ally with each other or even the local chapter of Cosa Nostra. They have similar rituals and rules. There is also a membership tattoo. Older members use a needle and black and blue ink to carve a five-pointed star on the initiate's right hand between the thumb and index finger. This tattoo is known as stiddari.

Furio, I don't need a wiki rundown to know about La Stidda. I've had plenty family members killed by them in the wars of the 80's and 90's, including Giuseppe Messina, who had his head blown off by Stidda while driving with his two young sons in their car. The war between Stidda and Cosa Nostra is over. Today they work together (operation Hardom is one example) and I've been to family weddings in Sicily where Cosa Nostra and Stidda members have gotten married to combine, strengthen and regroup. Stidda has been absorbed into Cosa Nostra.

I'm sorry Carmela,I'didn't know and and I'm sorry for your relatives that has been killed.

Was Lauria a stidda boss? I thought he was the Cosa Nostra boss of Raffadali and the supervisor of the hitman squad for the Agrigento province boss Carmelo Colletti. Later he killed his boss, but as far as I know he did it for other cosa nostra characters, not for the stidda.