After serving all that time, he must be mad to want to get back involved

Seen him called the boss and acting boss, what's the real story with him?

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theres a couple of different "schools of thought" about who is the current Patriarca boss. one is that after Manocchio steppped down in 2009, Limone steeped up and became the new boss. but because of restrictions there were so many people that Limone couldnt meet with, that he had to make Dinunzio acting boss.

what some others(and my self) believe is that Dinunzio is acting boss and that right now there is no official Boss for New England. a couple of years ago, Anthony Dinunzio was recorded by Nicky Skins saying that even if he has to go prison he will remain boss "no matter what". Now would a guy who was just acting as Limones guy on the street really say something like that to the guy there representing the Gambinos? I'm not so sure.

But to think that Limone isnt involved in OC anymore just bc of all the time he did and the millions he won from the govt, simply isnt true seeing that he was charged with Gambling in Loansharking back in 2010 where he admitted guilt but avoided jail time.

thats all just my opinion.

Carmen “Don of Donuts” Di Nunzio on the left talking to Peter Limone.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_p...sa_nostra_.html

The Foster Godfather

How do you become the “acting” head of a crime family?
Boston mafioso Anthony Dinunzio was arrested for extortion and racketeering on Wednesday. Law-enforcement authorities referred to Dinunzio in the indictment as the “acting boss” of the New England La Cosa Nostra. What does it mean to be an “acting” mob boss?

The real boss is working from prison, usually. The head of a crime family can maintain his position after getting pinched by the feds, provided he still has strong support from his underlings and can participate in major decisions from his cell. The rank-and-file mafiosi wouldn’t explicitly refer to his temporary replacement as “acting boss,” as police and prosecutors do, but they know the new head is only a caretaker, managing day-to-day operations until the boss returns. An acting head might eventually seize permanent control by promoting his own loyalists to important jobs like underboss (second-in-command), consigliere (chief adviser), or caporegime (unit captain). He could also convince the old boss’s supporters to change allegiance. A quicker, but riskier, route is to kill off the holdovers from the last regime. Sometimes, the jailed boss ends his own reign by collaborating with law enforcement.

Prosecutors won’t say why they believe that Dinunzio is merely the acting boss of the New England La Cosa Nostra. The prior boss, according to mob observers, was Peter Limone, aka “Chief Crazy Horse” or “The Camera Guy.” Limone has a colorful history. He was convicted for a 1968 murder that he didn’t commit and spent 33 years in prison. Despite receiving a $26 million payout from the government for the wrongful incarceration, he is said to have immediately resumed his mob activities and later taken the helm of the crime family. After pleading no contest to extortion and other charges in 2010, Limone didn’t do any time, but the judge ordered him to stay away from his old Mafia buddies. Anthony Dinunzio may be considered an acting boss on account of that order, which was intended to keep Limone from doing the job. It's worth noting that Limone’s name is curiously absent from Dinunzio’s indictment, even though prosecutors repeatedly mention Limone’s predecessor, Louis Manocchio, aka “Baby Shacks,” “The Professor,” or “The Old Man.” (Read an Explainer from 2005 on how mobsters get their nicknames.)
There are a couple of other possible explanations for Dinunzio's "acting" status. In the mafia’s heyday, at least, the would-be heads of local branches had to seek the blessing of more powerful leaders in New York. Despite several decades of contraction, New York remains the epicenter of mob authority. According to the federal indictment, Dinunzio tried to curry favor with Big Apple mafiosi after Limone was sidelined. It's possible the power players in New York were unimpressed and failed to support him for permanent leadership.

It could also be that Dinunzio’s temporary title was merely a ruse. Mob bosses sometimes want police and prosecutors to think they’re just caretakers, because they believe it makes them less appealing targets for wiretapping or surveillance. His title notwithstanding, it’s pretty clear that Dinunzio considered himself the permanent head of the family. According to the indictment, he told an emissary from the Gambinos in December, “If I go to the can, I’m still the boss ... No matter what.”

The hazy leadership situation in the New England family over the last several years is another reminder that, for all their organizational know-how, organized crime families haven’t yet figured out how to ensure a tidy transfer of power. When legendary gangster Carlo Gambino died, many high-ranking members of his crime family opposed his hand-picked successor, Paul Castellano. Castellano ruled the family for a few rocky years, but eventually John Gotti gathered support among the mafiosi and assassinated the unpopular don. Newly anointed mob bosses in Sicily also regularly face challenges to their power both from within the organization and from outsiders.

Limone is the Boss, the brothers are UB and consigliere. The brothers consider Limone a mentor and teacher and he'll have the bosses position until he dies...

limone knows every excon in the state no one taken his place. Howie winter at 85 yrs old got caught extorting some guy on tape last year saying im with the northend who do you think he was talking about. and that also shows you winter hill was always a mob group.

the situation is like Philly the family needs an old style boss, to reinforce the ranks and move on.

Young Peter Limone mug shot


In my opinion, given that Peter Limone spent almost more years in prison than outside, (he was born in 1934 and was sentenced in 1968) I think that to make a comparison with Matthew Madonna, the family Patriarca wanted to reward him for his loyalty, and also Limone in 2002 at 68 years, even with 20 million, he thought get back to being a man of honor would like to do the only thing he could do best,the mafioso.

I think he still is boss he probably felt in some way its outta duty before he got pinched..I stool feel he is the boss today and gets his messages out through certain individuals..he was spotted in medford with a man that for a by the name of tony tomato aresco,,tomato is his nickname he owns a tomato company hens the nickname..tony is a loan shark and a big player.. I'm assuming there just weren't talking about nothing..limone gets around pretty good and meets with several people

Why do they call him "The Camera Guy" and Chief Crazyhorse...how did the nicknames come about?

I never got it why did they make him boss when he lost decades of experience while being in prison on the frame-up conviction. He is basically almost a novice in the field.

They don't really have a lot of other guys to turn to right now...

Agreed 100%. He was a mere dice game operator when he went away and spent most of his life behind bars. The world has changed dramatically and LCN changed dramatically. He deposited over $150k in his savings account which clearly states to me that he doesn't understand modern banking and electronic paper trails or he was just plain stupid/careless. He never "ran a crew" on the streets...I admire his tenacity and his experience was horrendous...but at his age, he has millions from the government and should ride off into the sunset.

I thought he was a capo under Anguilo..I'm actually pretty sure

He was a favorite under Angiulo, but he went to prison as a young man, don't even think he was made, but an up and comer who drove Angiulo

Here is a New England Family Chart from the 1960's...Peter Limone is way at the bottom prior to going away

http://www.gangrule.com/2/wp-content/gallery/maps_new/rhode-island.jpg

jcb 1977 fbi in 1963 followed peter and his boss jerry from jfk to a meeting at fat tonys place up in harlem so he couldn't have been that low on the pole. then the jump back on a plane and left. the anguilo family were running dice games right up till the day they went away 83. when they were all ready multi millionares. weird thing I just thought of steve and whitey never ran any card games dice games. they were just shake down guys no brains. remember jerry screaming at his kid to throw the dice away every couple rolls at the vegas nights events. that's the difference between the the mafia and whitey. even frank salemmi was running these games in eastie in his days as boss. I do remember reading flemmi ran numbers. but jerry was a genius. im a bad speller even with spell check that I don't know how to you a red line just appears under all my screw ups.

Agreed that Limone was a student of Angiulo, but not a high ranking member of the Patriarca Crime Family at "that specific time." He oversaw dice games for Angiulo, but remember, Angiulo was an ATM machine for Ray Sr., and Ray Sr. did not care for him too much according to his FBI file.

I'd like to know where you read or heard that....I doubt jerry would have had a meeting like that with out Ray Sr. present

Is that family making any new members?

I totally agree whitey and his crew just shook people down and pumped dope..when gennaro was around whitey couldn't shine his shoes gennaro really was a great numbers guy probably one of the most under rated guys in mafia history.. whitey made money buy Anguilo made money the real mob way hustling,,whitey just ratted everyone out and scared everyone in his own neighborhood... Peter limone was one of anguilos best friends he was made a long time ago and he was def a rising leader maybe not a capo just yet

FULL STORY by Shelly Murphy Boston Globe Jerry Angiulo’s best bud was Peter Limone. Jerry took great care of Peter’s family while he was in prison all those miserable years . That’s about the best thing I can say about Jerry.

That was from the Boston globe,,those two were very close

if the guy was driving the underboss of the family around then he learned a thing or 2

not to mention he probably just gives advice at this point

Agreed...Ray Sr would "never" had let Jerry to have a high profile meeting without him present. He hated Jerry, as Jerry was nothing more than a money whore for Ray Sr.

Why did he name him underboss if he hated him?

its documented in either the merry feral files or fat tonys fbi docet. fat tony wasn't a boss in 1963 neither was jerry under I think the were both capos at the time. fat tony had the biggest sports book on the east coast they probably had a little discussion about money and that was it. ray sr doesn't have to tell jerry shit he was the gambling czar of new England. peter in jerry were followed from jfk to fat tonys spot 2 hours latter they got back on a plane and left.think theres a old photo to of them walking in nyc.

I'd give my left nut for that photo of Gerry and fat Tony walking around Harlem, lol...

Gerry was the financial genius of the modern day mob. He supposedly invested the wore system for bookies to hand off action to a central office to minimize risk..

Ray Sr. put Gerry in that position because he knew how to make money. Plus, he thought Boston just an outpost to his family and strength lied squarely in Providence. I've hardly even heard of a Ray Sr. sighting in Boston...

It was strictly financial

Limone was one of few from Boston that got made when the books opened in the late 50's. He was feared and a best friend of anguilo's like yous mentioned. Limone has a tight circle now real tight . He deals with old school guys like Biago,Spuck, Simone, Ferrara and etc keeps his circle real tight mostly guys who did time and kept mouths shut and dont bring heat like his gambling crew he had but exceptions for Dinunzio's b/c they was dumb specifically Tony he always was a loud mouth. Limone is in good shape from what i know. And you have to remember the vigs and percentage that get put in these dice/poker games or whatever gambling homes is crazy so they make out big just from attendance never mind the actual betting amount, the shy, vig on the shy, points etc it gets really profitable in large sums. whitey and flemmi took over a debt from howie/buddy what they owed from running their sports betting and extortion which was like 250k. thats why they was never clipped because without flemmi who was In Town going to over in the hill ??? no one. No one was really doing any business of sort and the bookies the hill had was really the towns bookies anyhow so it was just less headache an extra pay on top of the bookies makings just with the hill involved so for In Town its a win/win situation really IF you really know the truth just whitey with his fed connection and flemmi and his ratting they was really in the win/win collum all along out playing everyone in both crowds

Could you confirm that he was made in the 1950's and if he was, what is the source? Over on real deal, there is somebody who is considered an expert in New England and his contention is that Limone got made in the 1970's as a reward for taking his sentence like a man. All of his info has been spot on.

Also, you're interpretation of Fat Anthony is dead accurate...He shouldn't even be alive IMO...he was an embarrassment to the Patriarca Family.