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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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Could you imagine if those putzes in Philly tried to take on the Cherry Hill Gambinos???? LOL. It never got close to that point as far as i know. It was philly's turf and supposedly the Gambino's were given permission to sell their "merchandise" in philly's territory by Angelo Bruno who i would think got a piece of the profit. But from what i know of it they weren't supposed to get involved in traditional local mob rackets which the boss of philly controlled. AC might of been a different story though...i think most of the NY families had business there after the hit on Bruno. It was a pretty crazy time around here back then. The philly mob, the zips and the bikers were all at the peak of their power back then but by the end of the 1980's everyone was either dead or locked up and things really calmed down. Long John Martorano was pretty close to the local zips. He lived in the same south jersey neighborhood that they did and his vending company handled all the vending at their local restaurants and pizza spots.
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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Theres a photo with the gambinos and Bruno all meeting? where could I find it?
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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I lived in right outside Cherry hill in Gloucester Township for a few years when i was a senior in highschool until i was 23.. its actually pretty bad for the suburbs.. living in philly my whole life, I was pretty surprised.
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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Very interesting. Would love to get my hands on stuff like that. And stanfa is in the picture as well? Also, was Rosario the higher up of the brothers? I always assumed John Gambino was the big man out of the brothers.
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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How the heck can I get onto this RD forum? I've been trying since the summer and I even wrote them an e-mail like they requested and they never responded. Like lets be real were on a forum, nobody truely knows one another, how am i supposed to find somebody to vouch for me and risk there own membership? It all seems like a little much, And some people on here talk so highly of RD but others say its not that great anymore..
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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Very interesting. Would love to get my hands on stuff like that. And stanfa is in the picture as well? Also, was Rosario the higher up of the brothers? I always assumed John Gambino was the big man out of the brothers. John Gambino was the boss of that particular crew and the american side of the pipeline but he never lived in NJ. Sal (Rosario) was the #1 zip in town back then. By that i mean the south jersey - philly area.....John was always in NY running the biz from there. In the picture there are only 2 of the 3 Gambino brothers ...Rosario and John. Maybe Joe was working the camera and took the photo...i'm really not sure. There are a few other guys in the photo too. One i think is Erasmo Gambino and theres this one guy sitting next to Stanfa that nobody can figure out who he is but he's also in a photo taken at that infamous Bono wedding in NYC back in 1980. The wedding i refer to as Heroin INC. Couple other guys too...one who might be the Gambinos father Tommaso but i'm just guessing on that one....really not sure. But he did live here at the time and Bruno said he was friends with him so theres a decent chance it is him. It's really just a group shot of all of them having dinner together. Their wives were there too. Bruno's daughter talked about one of those dinners they all had back then in i think it was Philly Magazine. The writer wrote that Bruno's fate was sealed the moment the Gambino brothers came through his door. And he's probably right about that. Just want to add that it's really a photocopy of the original photo but it's still clear enough to make out who was there.
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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I lived in right outside Cherry hill in Gloucester Township for a few years when i was a senior in highschool until i was 23.. its actually pretty bad for the suburbs.. living in philly my whole life, I was pretty surprised. I still live in Gloucester Township. Oddly enough John Veasey's relatives are my neighbors, and we live directly across the street from where Salvie Testa's body was dumped. Small world.
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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I lived in right outside Cherry hill in Gloucester Township for a few years when i was a senior in highschool until i was 23.. its actually pretty bad for the suburbs.. living in philly my whole life, I was pretty surprised. I still live in Gloucester Township. Oddly enough John Veasey's relatives are my neighbors, and we live directly across the street from where Salvie Testa's body was dumped. Small world. JMack do you know Veasey's brother Dante? I think he lives somewhere in that area. I'm pretty familiar with Gloucester Township. Used to know a few bikers that lived there among others. A lot of people from south philly have been moving over the WW Bridge into areas a little south of there for decades now. Places like Sewell, Turnersville, and especially Washington Township. It's been non stop building down there for a long time...i remember when it was pretty much farmland and woods. Now it's bumper to bumper traffic and i try to avoid it as much as possible. Actually a nice area but they just built it up too much IMHO. Washington Township is practically right over the bridge so all the families that moved from philly can be back in their old neighborhoods in minutes. Just close enough to south philly without all the bullshit. Much better place to raise a family and the public schools are supposed to be pretty good.
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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I lived in right outside Cherry hill in Gloucester Township for a few years when i was a senior in highschool until i was 23.. its actually pretty bad for the suburbs.. living in philly my whole life, I was pretty surprised. I still live in Gloucester Township. Oddly enough John Veasey's relatives are my neighbors, and we live directly across the street from where Salvie Testa's body was dumped. Small world. JMack do you know Veasey's brother Dante? I think he lives somewhere in that area. I'm pretty familiar with Gloucester Township. Used to know a few bikers that lived there among others. A lot of people from south philly have been moving over the WW Bridge into areas a little south of there for decades now. Places like Sewell, Turnersville, and especially Washington Township. It's been non stop building down there for a long time...i remember when it was pretty much farmland and woods. Now it's bumper to bumper traffic and i try to avoid it as much as possible. Actually a nice area but they just built it up too much IMHO. Washington Township is practically right over the bridge so all the families that moved from philly can be back in their old neighborhoods in minutes. Just close enough to south philly without all the bullshit. Much better place to raise a family and the public schools are supposed to be pretty good. I've met him before. I'm pretty sure that he is from the Somerdale area. There are also a few Veasey's in that area
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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12/05/13 06:27 AM
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Who peanut? I'm know him and his son Dante Veasey. Theyre scumbags plain.and simple especially Peanut, john veaseys brother.
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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Ive known Big Dante and Little Dante for plenty of years and let me tell you they really thought they were hard asses. The dad Peanut was a meth head and would take anything he could get his hands on but he was always a nobody. The son was the same way except he was a pretty damn big guy and he was a bully basically. He used to rob highschool kids for there drugs and money when he was like 30 years old. But he got locked up for like 3 years and just got out. Funny thing was is they used to brag about how his uncle was in the mafia.. then a few years later i found out the whole story and was like wow!
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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Yeah that was Little Dante.. John Veaseys nephew. His Dads Name is also Dante but everyone knows him as Peanut, also the dad goes by a different last name.. Little Dante is a big as hell but hes a scumbag, robbing women and shit.
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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They would of been better off keeping Bruno around. If Caponigro really became boss after Brunos death im sure somebody would of came and shot his dumb ass too.. but it seems like Bruno tried to make sure everyone in New York was happy with him. I mean he let Gambino Brothers sell heroin 5 miles from where he was based at and also obviously everyone had there hooks into Atlantic city. He might have been greedy but hes the boss he makes the rules.
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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I mean he let Gambino Brothers sell heroin 5 miles from where he was based at and also obviously everyone had there hooks into Atlantic city. He might have been greedy but hes the boss he makes the rules. Honestly...i don't think Bruno had a choice. Those guys were coming here with or without his blessing. If he objected good chance he would of been killed a few years sooner then he was. When Carlo Gambino and Paul Castellano ask you to let Carlo's family do business in your territory it's really not a request. They were Bruno's protectors....no way he could of said no. Those guys were operating in South Jersey since the early 1970's. First they were in Delran NJ and then they moved to Cherry Hill in 76 i think it was. I'm pretty sure Carlo was still alive and calling the shots when those guys first set up shop in NJ. At one of the NJ state hearings on AC a NYC OC Squad cop testified they spotted the brothers entering and leaving Carlo's house in Brooklyn several times. This was around the time they first moved from Brooklyn to south jersey in the early 1970's. They had Carlo's blessing...IMO no way Bruno could of said no.
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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i've read all of the published books (anastasia's and leonetti's), and I wonder about Scarfo's involvement in the Bruno hit.
I think Scarfo, at the time, was very loyal to LCN. And, he must have had a decent relationship with Bruno, for Bruno to OK a hit on a judge (helfant) by Scarfo, among others. But, on the one hand, the Bruno/Scarfo relationship seemed highly strained (paperclip episode in jail,Scarfo "siding" with Chicken in the Phil Testa/Bruno rift, the Bartenders union issue).
I question how much Scarfo knew about the Bananas/Genovese plot to have Bruno hit.
He had a very tight relationship with Bobby Manna and seems like the type to let everyone know that he was the man in AC. The Caponigro double cross at the hands of Funzi Tieri is just, well, stupid on behalf of Tony Bananas. To think that he could embarass Tieri with a commission ruling a year or 2 prior on the Newark Bookie, and then go to him to whack a boss, he must of had someone else (scarfo, via his relationship with Bobby Manna) assuring him that the Genovese were on his side.
Just a theory.
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Re: Stanfa: What was his deal?
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And, he must have had a decent relationship with Bruno, for Bruno to OK a hit on a judge (helfant) by Scarfo, among others. Are you sure Bruno was even asked? I thought it was just crazy revenge by Virgilio, with Scarfo's help.
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