why Trafficante family, once given the huge turnover of cocaine has not allied, or at least tried to do business with Griselda Blanco and the Colombians?
I do not know the situation of the family to Tampa in the 70's and 80's, but as it was a very small family because he did not see the opportunity to enter in the cocaine ring? They had contacts both political and judicial, and could provide to Griselda Blanco, men for the murders or recycle the huge flow of money. Instead it seems that remained indifferent. I may well be wrong, does anyone have news of that period?

Durinbg the 50's and 60's Trafficante was smuggling drugs from Cuba.During the late 60's some of Trafficante's Cuban drug connections gor arrested,guys like Lazaro Milian and Oscar Alvarez.So some sources say that during the 70's Trafficante smuggled drugs from Saigon,Hong Kong,and Singapore.

Dont know anything about any connections with the Colombians.As you said,the Trafficante's were small family in the late 70's and early 80s.Maybe the Colombians took over cuz they were more powerful,big number of soldiers and more ruthless than the rest of o.c. groups.Remember the situation with the Demeo crew?!They had to apologize to the Colombians by killing one of their own.

Yes,but the Trafficantes don't have a crew in Miami ? If yes why was the capo? anyone have a chart of the Trafficantes in the 70s and 80s ?
In Cocaine Cowboys Jon Roberts born John Riccobono,say that it's enought that he pay the stuff,and the Colombian provide to supply,no mafioso have tryed to do this ?

Maybe some of the more knowledgeable members can answer you that question.

The only source i found about the cooperation between the Trafficante and Colombians,is Howard Marks,a marijuana smuggler.

"In the late 1970s the Trafficante crime family, under the leadership of Santo Trafficante, Jr., were importing Colombian cannabis into the US on freighter ships, thus driving down the price of the drug on the streets in America.In December 1979, Trafficante exported no less than 50 tons of cannabis direct from Colombia to Marks and his contacts in the UK, enough to supply the entire British market for the drug for almost a whole year.In 1980, Marks was arrested by Customs Officers for his part in importing £15 million of cannabis; police had followed associates of the Trafficante family to a large stash of cannabis.Upon his arrest he was in possession of numerous pieces of incriminating evidence, as well as £30,000 in cash."

It's hard to understand your English lately, furio, so I hardly understand the question. Remember this: Griselda Blanco was so well known because she was so violent and killed so many Colombians in Miami, and she was a very high level trafficker but truth is she was just one out of dozens of other top level coke dealers who were moving just as much weight and in some cases much more than Griselda even, but these men were not making headlines and ordering hits on whole families and leaving bodies all over Miami-Dade. I know you've seen Cocaine Cowboys 1 so you know about the Dadeland Massacre at the Dadeland shopping center, that Griselda ordered when those Colombians pulled up in some truck loaded to the gills with machine guns. The target she wanted dead was at the time the biggest coke distributor in Miami. So maybe not Griselda, but its possible that the mob family down there had a connection to one or more Colombian traffickers.

soutend thanks for your post that is not only totally useless but repeating things that I already knew, having said that I had seen before Cocaine Cowboys, then since I'm not a native speaker, but I try to write or speak English, at my best if you do not understand my English, mind your fuckin ' business! or politely fuck off.

if you can't understand what I wrote, ask someone to explain to you.

Low level Tampa wiseguys dealt coke out of strip clubs in Tampa in the 1970s and 80s, but they were never really into wholesale trafficking, unlike heroin.

Blanco was simply in different circles than the Trafficantes in Miami at that time. Steve Raffa and the Miami faction were into heroin, not coke. Also the Trafficantes historic ties in Miami were with the older Cuban mob, which were at odds with the Colombians.

Yes the Trafficantes had a crew in Miami at that time- guys like Steve Raffa and converts from other families e.g. Stefano Randazzo (Cleveland) and Vincent Amato (Gambinos).

Steve Raffa was the capo in the early 80s through 2000.

I had a nice wall chart of the family, including Miami, circa 1990. It's now on display at the Mob Museum in Vegas.

Scott can you post the chart ?

finocchio_from_naples, i did not mean to insult you. I simply meant I couldn't understand your English well and nothing more. So fuck you and your dirty whore of a mother you cocksucker, k?

Whoa whoa whoa easy boys, maybe because i work with plenty of europeans who speak english poorly i can understand it easier, but south he was basically asking if Trafficante had a crew in miami, and if they did, who was the capo of the crew and if anyone had charts of the family from the 70s or 80s. No need for the back and forth drama.

stay calm fucked fag and do not insult my mother,that your mum gets fucked by half boston and takes in the ass from the other half,to insult behind the monitor is easy, thanks that I donìt live in america, otherwise I come to you and broke your legs and I took the bat and slipped it up on your ass,fuck you and your family can die slaughtered, like the scum that you are.

she was insulted by what i said which wasn't my intention in the least but whatever i really don't care, she wants to act like a little bitch then let her. Fucking winey kunntt. My answer was this: Just because you never heard the Trafficante's dealt with Griselda doesn't mean they weren't dealing with some other large-scale trafficker.

scarfacetm until offend me or the way I write in English, patience, but since southend in his post (which has changed the text) offended my mother for the rest I have a bad temper and I was wrong to respond in that way , but I won't apologize just turn back to the topic of the post.

its a two way thing, south has to understand that english isn't your first language so that might happen sometimes, like i said i deal with it with work all the time. At the same time what south originally said may have came across wrong, again the language barrier, there was no need to originally tell him to fuck off or mind his fuckin business. Mix ups happen, we're all adults, or atleast to my knowledge we are, so there's no need to be talkin about ones mother or threatening each other like we're high school kids, that's why I'm stepping in here. We got enough new comers coming and starting drama, no need for regulars to do it.