That's part of the problem. La Eme started as a prison gang, so it's easy for that to work out. Then you have other gangs as well that are in the same prisons so it's easy for them to pass orders and all that around. This is one of those cases where the penal system fails big time.

Street gangs out number mafia families italian and russian but yet they are still all so dumb that they havent evolved from selling crack

being used like tools

"all so dumb that they havent evolved from selling crack"

Sir, why don't you read this first half of entire thread? Save the time of replying to your comment. -____-

Misconception: Not all Surenos are under La Eme.

Actually lately there's been a crackdown on numerous EMEROS and their operations. Most famous ones being Danny "Popeye" Roman of Harpys and Artur "Tablas" Castellanos. They send the most influential carnales to different prisons and the SHU, that does little to stop them in the long run but for the moment it's a tremendous blow to them and their operations. Especially the streets crackdown where over 50 or sometimes even 100 gangbangers are arrested and convicted.


@BlackFamily - That's right, not all of them are under EME. And it's seems to be a rising trend for Surenos to break off from EME and get put on the list, that's why I said that within 15 or 20 years Marafiosi's will take over the power within Hispanic communities in Southern California.

Indeed who/what are Marafiosos?

Marafiosi's are elite crew of members of Maravilla gangs. Maravilla gangs are those who in early 90s refused to take orders from EME and got put on the list. Also, some Sureno sets turn into Maravilla sets after they claim war to EME.

According to Tony Rafael, Marafiosi's are growing big in LA but they're very secretive. In order to become a Marafioso, you have to kill either a carnal from EME or a well respected Camarada.

man you are full of stupid comments in this thread, things have been posted in this thread that prove the opposite but you're still here making sweeping generalizations

during the whole florencia 13/crips feud members of florencia carried on selling guns and drugs to the crips even though la eme had ordered the race war.
money trumps all even mexican mafia edicts.
even in those circumstances where both sides are killing civilians of each others race, the drug dealers and money makers look out for themselves. Florencia 13 been getting hit pretty hard. First with all the hate crime rico and then the more recent one where their cartel alliance was busted.

athens park bloods also had an alliance with barrio 13 at one point sharing drugs and guns.

MS-13 clique just got busted along with their mexican mafia member.Feds are taking them down one gang at a time.
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/12/10/fbi-cracks-down-on-violent-ms-13-gang/

Thanks for making my point. GD and BGF are hardly streetgangs anymore. If they don't operate like streetgangs, then they're not. Streetgangs commit stupid streetcrimes. If a gang gets rid of their colors and start dressing to blend into society and pulling white collar crimes, are they still a streetgang?

I think it's more a mafia-type organization then.

Luciano, Gotti, and Gravano started out as streetgang members. They moved on to bigger things, like Hoover did.

The mafia families all started out as streetgangs, robbing and extorting. They evolved into something else.

Yeah, EME had a real hard on for blacks in the late 80s/early 90s, when the members of the so called Pepsi generation started ordering the street gangs to kill all African Americans in their neighborhoods. 'Pee Wee' Aguirre of Avenues and 'Dashing D' Castrejon of 12th street Sharkys were the ones who made sure that went through, other carnales such as 'Boxer' Enriquez of Artesia 13 were like: "Yeah, OK, blacks ain't liked but fuck it, if they make me money I'll do business with them". Both sides had a lot of supporters, though.

They call themselves a street organization or nation in Chicago. GDs are perhaps the largest black street organization/mob in the US. They obviously have various individuals that still commit street crimes. Chicago gangs are more of the fraternity type groups.
BGF wasn't a street gang to begin with, their an exclusive prison gang that been described as an organized crime organization back in 1974 by the feds.

To answer your question, yes there still a gang. It goes way back to the beginning of the topic which the root definition of street gangs. If they were defined strictly by their activities than they would be defined as criminal enterprises.

I hear what you are saying, but wouldn't it stand to reason that a prison organized crime group will eventually become a street gang when members are released? Most don't just drop the affiliation when they hit the streets. They start recruiting and eventually it's a street gang.

Speaking of prison gangs, aren't all of them also "street" gangs at least to some degree? Are there any gangs that only control prisons but have no influence on the streets?

wasn't it in around 2005-7 that eme started ordering the attacks on blacks in mostly Hispanic neigbourhoods and gang turf?

I know that the florencia 13/east coast crips war was sparked by the crips robbing florencia of a large quantity of drugs. But is their generally strong gang feuds between black and Hispanic gangs or is it just certain neighbourhoods?

There were two waves of "NK" era. One was in late 80s/early 90s and the second one was started when ECC robbed F13, even the cartel had their share of violence in the second wave. And there's general hatred for African-Americans and Hispanics, even though some gangs jump in blacks who lived in their turf their whole life. But not all sets go at it equally, some go harder and some go easier.

Just finished reading Murder Rap by Greg Kading, he was leading the last task force into the biggie smalls and tupac shakur murders. A lot of interesting things about Suge knight, death row records and mob piru bloods. The fbi had been building a rico case against him and his mob piru posse. He was essentially running a criminal organisation.

heres an excerpt from the book.
In the end, however, the FBI and ATF investigation ran up hard against the effects of September 11, and the massive reallocation of man power at the federal level that followed....the agencies, cultivating a wide range of informants, had put together the first coherent picture of how gangs had infiltrated the music industry and used the record business as a front for drug dealing, money laundering and tax evasion.

Actually no. A prison gang activities outside on the streets is an extension or branch of the group. Prison gangs method of operation and background is starkly different than street gangs. Speaking of traditional prison gangs ( La Eme, BGF, AB, NF) they are more discipline, stricter, and mature ( average prison gang member is late 20-40). When they recruit it's selective and they blend on the streets. General prison gangs don't have colors, hand signs nor taggings. They have a tattoo symbol that means their official members. You can't drop your membership because it's lifelong.

Latinos/Hispanics & whites seem to have more prison based gangs than blacks. Black street gangs keep their affiliation in prison. BGF is the oldest active black prison gang. UBN is a prison gang but not in the traditional sense.

No. There are some prison gangs that don't have a street branch.