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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: NickyEyes1] #706748
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
So is ferriola with elmwood or cicero?


Ferriola's father was a Cicero guy so I believe that is why he was sucked into 26th Street and Calabrese took him under his wing. But I think when he got out, he went straight to Marco and asked permission to open a book (maybe Cicero guys still have to ask Marco's permission to open a book I don't know). I have some recent pics of Ferriola so if anyone wants them, let me know.

Also many people think that Ferriola was once the top boss...that theory is false according to my sources and he was merely the Capo of Cicero (which was still a big deal). Sam Carlisi took the top spot after Aiuppa went away in 1986 and was replaced by DiFronzo.

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Thank you for the info. Very interesting.

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I think Inendino is in charge of Cicero and not Matassa

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Anybody know anything about "Joe Kong" Cullotta, apparently he's a Captain, also I wonder if he's releated to Frank

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Inendino is indeed running Cicero now that Sarno is gone.

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Anybody know anything about "Joe Kong" Cullotta, apparently he's a Captain, also I wonder if he's releated to Frank


His name is always mispelled. His last name is actually "Calato" and he owns a ton of vending machine companies and came up under Joseph "Little Caesar" DiVarco. He's related to a few guys through marriage though I hear he is sick these days.

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Joe Kong Cullotta is not even his real name so he's not related to Frank. I've heard he's inactive and has cancer.

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Even if Melrose Park is 60% Hispanic, that means 40% are white. about 2/3 of the WHITE people in Melrose Park are Italian. The Mayor is Italian, The chief of Police is Italian. There are still some Italian Neighborhoods in Melrose Park along with Elmwood Park, Grand Ave.(in the city), Taylor St.(in the city), 26th St. (in the city) and a few more I can't think of right this moment.

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Matassa is with Elmwood Park.

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Cicero.

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when I posted Cicero, I meant to say that Ferriola was with Cicero. He was never the Top Boss Of the Outfit.

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The Feds don't know everything. Though in this case they are not far off. The Feds thought Joe Ferriola was the Top Boss years ago when it was really Sam Carlisi. The Feds thought Giancana took orders from Accardo years ago. Giancana listened to some of his advice out of respect for Paul Ricca, but never took orders from Acccardo. There are more than 28 made guys in the Outfit today but certainly less than 60 from several years ago when there were 6 Street Crews. Presently there are 4 Street crews. I would say counting the new men who were made in the last 10 years, you're talking about 36 to 40. 40 would be on the high side. You've then got about 100 to 120 soldiers.

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40 is accurate with about 120 soldiers. This doesn't count all the associates who do business with the Outfit. Now you're talking several hundred. This would include all the street bookies who are 25% agents, all the bar owners who have poker machines etc.

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This topic seems to be going on in 3 or 4 different threads. Bottom line, in 2007, the FBI didn't differentiate between "made members" and "soldiers." And even if you choose to, their estimates were 28 made members and a little over 100 associates. Which is significantly smaller than the numbers you are throwing out.

Incidentally, more recent info suggests the Outfit may be down to two or three crews.

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #753579
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any updates on the outfit guys? Great list by the way


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Very little. I think the most accurate number of full time made soldiers and soldier/associates is between 40-50 with another 100 associates. Approx. 10 "made" guys are in prison. So suffice to say, there's about 30 made guys on the street with 100 associates.

Made men/full time soldiers in prison: James Marcello, Michael Marcello, Michael Sarno, Joseph Lombardo, Robert Bellavia, Paul Spano, Anthony Calabrese, Vito Scavo, Louis Marino, Mario Rainone, Paul Schiro.

Made men/full time soldier associates on the street: John DiFronzo, Joseph Andriacchi, Rudy Fratto, Joseph Calato, John Matassa, Peter DiFronzo, Frank Caruso, Leo Caruso, Bruno Caruso, Chris Spina, Michael Spano, Joseph Mangiamele, James Inendino, Salvatore DeLaurentis, Salvatore Cautadella, Joseph Gagliano, Sam Cecola, Tony Dote, Carl Dote, Casey Szaflarski, Dino Marino, Michael Posner, Albert Vena, Gary Gagliano, Robert Abbinanti, Fred Pascente.

Possible made men/full time soldier associates on the street: Paul Carparelli, Vegas Rick Rizzolo, Rocco Lombardo, Frank Caruso, Jr., Nick Ferriola, Vincent Forliano, John Rainone, William Daddono III, Anthony Maggio, Anthony Giannone, Jimmy DiGiulio, Anthony Spavone, Sam Bills, Robert Dominic.

Needless to say, most of these guys are in their 60s and 70s. A few are in their 50s. The only three in their 40s are Paul Carparelli, Michael Spano and Vincent Forliano. Frank Caruso, Jr. and Nick Ferriola are in their 30s.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Mmalioni] #753586
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you know the hierarchy by any chance Mmalioni? boss, underboss, consiglire, capos, soldiers, crews?

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I am not 100% sure. Here is what I think. Others please feel free to disagree.

I think there is a dual hierarchy. Think of a little pyramid on top of a bigger pyramid. Or a tiny building sitting atop a big building.

At the very top top is: Boss- Johnny DiFronzo, Underboss- Peter DiFronzo, Consiglieri- Marco D'Amico. I do not think Andriacchi is active anymore on any level. I don't really think Johnny or Marco are really active, other than running very (almost legitimate) lucrative enterprises such as Aruba and high level sports betting. However, like Accardo, I do think they have final say on major things in the post Marcello era.

I think when Marcello got out in the early 2000s, he effectively began running a shadow management operation. I think the taking out of Chiaramonte in 2001 caused DiFronzo & Co. to take a step back and some type of power sharing agreement was reached. The disappearance of Zizzo in 2005 and the attempt on Sal Cautadella probably had to do with the power struggle.

When Marcello went away, that effectively eliminated the "two tier" Outfit. I do think now DiFronzo and D'Amico have final control over major major decisions, but day to day operations are run by Sal Cautadella.

Here is what I think the structure is now below the DiFronzos and D'Amico.

Street Boss- Sal Cautadella
Street Underboss- James Inendino
These two are Cicero Group 1.

Capo- Salvatore DeLaurentis (Cicero Group 2)
Capo- Frank Caruso (Chinatown/26th Street)
Capo- Albert Vena (Grand Ave. somewhat active)
Capo- Peter DiFronzo (Elmwood Park- largely inactive)

The reason I do not think Solly D is a street boss or underboss is because he gave orders directly to Paul Carparelli. Carparelli may or may not be made, but those orders would not come from the top.

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Just curious, why do you think Jimmy I takes orders from Solly C? I've seen a lot of people say that I is the new power in Cicero.

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Originally Posted By: Mmalioni


the attempt on Sal Cautadella probably had to do with the power struggle.



What was this? I've never heard about this. Could you please expand? Thanks.

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Couple other things:

Was Cautadella taking orders from Sarno?

So Marcello's group took out Zizzo, Hatch and tried to take out Cautadella and DiFronzo just sat there and took it or did DiFronzo OK them?

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I am not sure whether Solly C or Jimmy I is the street boss and which one is the street underboss. I would think Solly C because he seems to be a little more white collar.

In 2006, a man in Park Ridge was gunned down with a shotgun. His house number was opposite of Solly C. Park Ridge Police suspected it was a botched hit on Solly C.

Not sure how high Sarno was ranked. I'm not sure anyone really knows. I think he may have been in charge of Cicero Crew 1 (Marcello's old crew). Maybe there was a mini mutiny between Solly C and Sarno.

I think Zizzo was loyal to DiFronzo. Hatch was a threat to Marcello's power when he got out of the penitentiary. The attempt on Solly C was possibly due to a spat between Solly C and Sarno to Sarno's much maligned leadership skills.

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Being white collar in Cicero doesn't give you an edge up on being on top. If anything, being blue collar does.
And I never heard anything about that Solly C story after it happened. I feel like it was just a robbery that went wrong and as soon as the reporter found a way to bring up the mob, they did regardless.

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The Chicago Mob has influence with Obama,thr president of the united states , through john coli, the son of eco coli and glimco jr the son of James glimco, both are major teamster leaders especially coli the head of joint council 25 of the teamsters


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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Being white collar in Cicero doesn't give you an edge up on being on top. If anything, being blue collar does.
And I never heard anything about that Solly C story after it happened. I feel like it was just a robbery that went wrong and as soon as the reporter found a way to bring up the mob, they did regardless.


You may be right. But my take on it is that most Outfit rackets now are white collar. There is relatively little evidence of low level street level loansharking, bookmaking, restaurant shakedowns, etc. Even the poker machine racket has lost its luster.

The major Outfit rackets now are high level gaming, major loansharking, control of certain fields (McPier, restaurants, etc.). I take the position (and I could be wrong) that DiFronzo does still have enormous power, even if he doesn't exercise that power and allows other individuals to run the rackets. If that's the case, I would expect that Grand Ave. and Elmwood Park guys (even if somewhat inactive) would identify more with Solly C than with Jimmy I.

The motive for that murder in Park Ridge was not Robbery. Nothing was taken. The media reported that Solly C hadn't lived on the street in 20 years. But that doesn't mean someone didn't own that property related to Solly C and that doesn't mean he really didn't live there. That would be too much of a coincidence.

In any event, the Cicero crew is likely 2 or 3 smaller crews now. Solly C/Jimmy I. lead Crew 1, Solly D leads Crew 2 and perhaps there is some remnant of the Sarno Crew or they are morphed into one of the others.

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Also, it wasn't just the media who speculated it was a botched hit. As I recall, the Feds were involved in the investigation to a degree.

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Originally Posted By: Mmalioni
I am not sure whether Solly C or Jimmy I is the street boss and which one is the street underboss. I would think Solly C because he seems to be a little more white collar.

In 2006, a man in Park Ridge was gunned down with a shotgun. His house number was opposite of Solly C. Park Ridge Police suspected it was a botched hit on Solly C.

Not sure how high Sarno was ranked. I'm not sure anyone really knows. I think he may have been in charge of Cicero Crew 1 (Marcello's old crew). Maybe there was a mini mutiny between Solly C and Sarno.

I think Zizzo was loyal to DiFronzo. Hatch was a threat to Marcello's power when he got out of the penitentiary. The attempt on Solly C was possibly due to a spat between Solly C and Sarno to Sarno's much maligned leadership skills.


A few things:

There is no "Solly C." Salvatore Cautadella goes by "Sammy C." You are confusing "Solly D" who is Sal DeLaurentis.

Sammy C moved to Westchester in 2004 or so..about 5 years after he got out of prison. So by the time of that shooting in 2006 he was long-gone, hence why no one really thinks it was Outfit.

Sarno and Sammy C are very close and came up together in the Outfit under Robert "Bobby the Boxer" Salerno and Bobby Bellavia. Sarno was the dominant of the two and took over as street boss in Cicero with Sammy C as his number two once the Spano's gave up their rackets before heading to prison. Once Solly D was out of prison in 2006, he took his rightful place at the top of the pyramid in Cicero, with Sarno and Sammy C running things for him (he was still on parole). When Jimmy I came out of prison a few years later, he and Solly D retained leadership of the Cicero Crew. Solly D slowly became more hands-on as his parole restrictions loosened up, however he continued to allow Sarno and Sammy the "acting" positions.

My theory is that when Sarno went away, Sammy C took his spot and Solly D and Jimmy I continue to stay a safe distance away.

The bigger question is who inherited the rackets of this guy--the main money maker for Cicero--Casy Szaflarski--when he went away. Casey is a Bridgeport native and owned by the Carusos. I believe he is a nephew of Shorty LaMantia.


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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Being white collar in Cicero doesn't give you an edge up on being on top. If anything, being blue collar does.
And I never heard anything about that Solly C story after it happened. I feel like it was just a robbery that went wrong and as soon as the reporter found a way to bring up the mob, they did regardless.


Whatever it was, it wasn't related to Sammy. His adult son lived in the same neighborhood but he is a relatively legit guy.

Here is a recent photo of Sammy.


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Originally Posted By: Mmalioni
Not sure how high Sarno was ranked. I'm not sure anyone really knows. I think he may have been in charge of Cicero Crew 1 (Marcello's old crew).


According to the FBI, he was the Outfit's acting boss prior to his indictment.


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You theory is that Solly D and Inendino are #1 and #2 as street boss and street underboss and Cataudella is the Capo?

The reason I do not think Solly D is #1 there is because he wouldn't be giving direct orders to a guy like Carparelli. Solly D is a Capo, but is not a street boss.

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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Being white collar in Cicero doesn't give you an edge up on being on top. If anything, being blue collar does.
And I never heard anything about that Solly C story after it happened. I feel like it was just a robbery that went wrong and as soon as the reporter found a way to bring up the mob, they did regardless.


Whatever it was, it wasn't related to Sammy. His adult son lived in the same neighborhood but he is a relatively legit guy.

Here is a recent photo of Sammy.


Eh the Solly stuff is my fault. I thought he was also referred to by that nickname. Chitown, I know it's probably been brought up before I don't remember, but did you grow up in these neighborhoods?

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