If these guys beat this ill bet ya they will all be down in Boca in March to celebrate there freedom, to me they are a very standup crew that have faced LIFE in the face and they all grabbed there balls and rode it out like real men should, if merlino, Mazzone,borgesi, Angelina, Chang woulda ever turned rat it woulda happen 14yrs ago, they are stand up guys!!!! I salute them