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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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If Ferriola is one of Solly D's top LT's, I have several questions: 1) Wouldn't this mean that Ferriola was made either before or after federal prison? 2) When did he switch from 26th St. to Cicero and why if he worked for 26th St. under Calabrese was he switched to a new crew rather than under Caruso? 3) Who is in Ferriola's crew? Don't know how many of you are banned from RD but someone started a thread calling Solly D the top street boss and Nick Ferriola as one of his top lieutenants. He also posted two recent pics of them.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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Was Mario Rainone shelved after almost beefing? I can't imagine he was totally shelved after doing 15. They had to let him earn. Hell he's still not beefing (yet) and the Feds nailed him on a BS gun charge for 15 to life. Talks about some BS, you clip someone, cop a plea and get less than that. They got a .357 in his nightstand. Whoop de doo. They must think they can get him to flip this time.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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Was Mario Rainone shelved after almost beefing? The fact the guy was caught out doing burglaries at his age with Rudy Fratto's dumbfuck brother-in-law probably proves yes...he was stripped of all his rackets. Mario was a major player in the 1980s with Jimmy LaValley. At this point, he was just trying to make ends meet any way he could. I believe his ex-wife went on to marry Billy Daddono who is still a serious guy and that is probably why Mario's son continues to hang around Outfit types without getting slapped around.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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That ANP picture is driving me crazy. The car on the right is a '55 Chevy, and the one on the left is a '53 I believe, so it was likely taken in the mid to late 50s.
Besides Accardo, Amato, and DiVarco, this a tough friggin assignment. Most of the possibilities there there just aren't many/any photographs of to compare to, especially in that time frame.
From your and others' guesses, we know Cerone, Solano, Dibella, Prio, Brancato, Nuccio, Depietto, and Gagliano are NOT in the pic.
I have a feeling that if just one more can be ID'd, the others might follow fairly quickly. I also have a creeping suspicion that the lack of photos of certain prominent 70s Outfit figures during this time frame is making it a little tougher than it actually is -- comparing pics of old guys to this late 50's shot is frustrating to say the least.
Here's who I'm currently trying to eliminate: Blasi, Daddano, Buccieri (very doubtful there), Messino, Annoreno, Catuara, Ciapetta, and even LaPietra and Infelice.
A little help?
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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I think that's Cerone's bald head with the hidden face. What makes you think its not?
I think you're dead on about the time frame...cars are definitely 50s models. Considering where Fosco got it, one of them is likely to be Romie Nappi..no?
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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From Snakes earlier in the thread: For what it's worth, I made a guess but Accardo, Black Joe, and Caesar DiVarco were the only three I know I got right as Joe replied to my e-mail saying I only got three. I also guessed Prio (guy with cigar), Solano (guy sitting on bench), Cerone (as the bald guy not facing the camera), and (for lack of any better guess) DiBella, even though none of the remaining guys resemble him. The others can be discounted by cross-referencing his guesses with others on the ANP thread.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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Was Mario Rainone shelved after almost beefing? The fact the guy was caught out doing burglaries at his age with Rudy Fratto's dumbfuck brother-in-law probably proves yes...he was stripped of all his rackets. Mario was a major player in the 1980s with Jimmy LaValley. At this point, he was just trying to make ends meet any way he could. I believe his ex-wife went on to marry Billy Daddono who is still a serious guy and that is probably why Mario's son continues to hang around Outfit types without getting slapped around. While I won't completely disagree these guys will do just about anything if they think its an easy score. What about the old guys breaking into the dead guys house a couple years ago looking for the marlborough diamond? I don't think any of them are mensa members.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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From Snakes earlier in the thread: For what it's worth, I made a guess but Accardo, Black Joe, and Caesar DiVarco were the only three I know I got right as Joe replied to my e-mail saying I only got three. I also guessed Prio (guy with cigar), Solano (guy sitting on bench), Cerone (as the bald guy not facing the camera), and (for lack of any better guess) DiBella, even though none of the remaining guys resemble him. The others can be discounted by cross-referencing his guesses with others on the ANP thread. Yeah, unless I am wrong about one of Accardo, Amato, and DiVarco - which I don't think I am - then that can't be Cerone.
"Snakes... Snakes... I don't know no Snakes."
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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Was Mario Rainone shelved after almost beefing? The fact the guy was caught out doing burglaries at his age with Rudy Fratto's dumbfuck brother-in-law probably proves yes...he was stripped of all his rackets. Mario was a major player in the 1980s with Jimmy LaValley. At this point, he was just trying to make ends meet any way he could. I believe his ex-wife went on to marry Billy Daddono who is still a serious guy and that is probably why Mario's son continues to hang around Outfit types without getting slapped around. While I won't completely disagree these guys will do just about anything if they think its an easy score. What about the old guys breaking into the dead guys house a couple years ago looking for the marlborough diamond? I don't think any of them are mensa members. Actually Scalise and Rachel are extremely intelligent: http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2012/The-Mobs-Last-Gasp/I think the issue with these three is that they were addicted to the "score" and simply couldn't stop.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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This is a good article. I had the first page saved, but somehow missed the other four pages. Thanks for sharing. Would you care to comment on the second page relative to the statements about Accardo? I would be interested in your thoughts. Was Mario Rainone shelved after almost beefing? The fact the guy was caught out doing burglaries at his age with Rudy Fratto's dumbfuck brother-in-law probably proves yes...he was stripped of all his rackets. Mario was a major player in the 1980s with Jimmy LaValley. At this point, he was just trying to make ends meet any way he could. I believe his ex-wife went on to marry Billy Daddono who is still a serious guy and that is probably why Mario's son continues to hang around Outfit types without getting slapped around. While I won't completely disagree these guys will do just about anything if they think its an easy score. What about the old guys breaking into the dead guys house a couple years ago looking for the marlborough diamond? I don't think any of them are mensa members. Actually Scalise and Rachel are extremely intelligent: http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2012/The-Mobs-Last-Gasp/I think the issue with these three is that they were addicted to the "score" and simply couldn't stop.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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Was Mario Rainone shelved after almost beefing? The fact the guy was caught out doing burglaries at his age with Rudy Fratto's dumbfuck brother-in-law probably proves yes...he was stripped of all his rackets. Mario was a major player in the 1980s with Jimmy LaValley. At this point, he was just trying to make ends meet any way he could. I believe his ex-wife went on to marry Billy Daddono who is still a serious guy and that is probably why Mario's son continues to hang around Outfit types without getting slapped around. While I won't completely disagree these guys will do just about anything if they think its an easy score. What about the old guys breaking into the dead guys house a couple years ago looking for the marlborough diamond? I don't think any of them are mensa members. Actually Scalise and Rachel are extremely intelligent: http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2012/The-Mobs-Last-Gasp/I think the issue with these three is that they were addicted to the "score" and simply couldn't stop. Good article. Author quite strongly points out that Scalise and the others don't fear retribution. Think he misses the point....why would the current day outfit hit them over LaPietra, who has been dead now for 14 years?
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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The DiVarco hair I've been questioning all along - he still had black hair then -- so discount him.
I think you're right about that being Cerone. He's the 3rd that Fosco's confirmed unofficially, then.
Sunglasses is more likely Pierce than Zizzo. Zizzo had a fat face already then.
I've reconsidered on Angelini, as he was a bit young then, in retrospect. Pranno I'll take your word for. Fischetti does sorta resemble that guy, and his age at that time jibes.
Nuccio, though, was born in 1895, so I do NOT think that's him. The person in question does not appear to be pushing 60-65 years of age.
So we have Accardo, Amato, Pranno, Cerone, Fischetti and maybe Pierce. Getting there maybe?
EDIT: Per the guy you think is Nuccio, take a close look and tell me if that couldn't possibly be Johnny Roselli? How crazy would that be?
Another edit: Also, per the guy we've accepted as Amato all along actually be Torello? If so, this is looking more like a Taylor St affair.
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members
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I would just find it odd that Accardo is hanging out with Taylor Street guys (like Pranno) in the 1950's. Could be wrong. Totally agree. But a case might be made that it's predominantly Taylor: 1. Accardo (easy) 2. Torello (not Amato as we've presumed) 3. Ricca (not Cerone; I think Cerone's hair was darker at that time) 4. Pranno (as noted before, just to the right of JB, sitting on the table) 5. Roselli (not Nuccio; he was their Hollywood guy at the time, no? Perhaps he was in town for the occasion?) 6. Buccieri (not the guy you think is Fischetti; I'm grasping at straws here perhaps -- is Chuckie English a possibility?) 7. LaPietra (in the white hat) 8. Nappi (immediate foreground with shades and cigar; it would make sense and he does have a Fosco chin). Constructive criticism is of course welcomed!
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