Ya know more on holiday house- i remember even @ young age, my uncle would meet guys there & i'd think man look @ them guys they are malandrine for sure ! I think we all go as a big family so it be less noticeable ! Frank gorshon, ike& tina turner , the shilites & gail sonders to name a few , that big pool swmming and all ( memories, ). Heck wed go up to seven springs also . That is all part why i was so intrigued as a youngster along with all the other guys back home.Money flowing, the clothes the cars . Your ruining me ! Im taking a trip down memory lane !! I dont know how much you were in cleveland back in the day, but man tuesday nights @ IAB club- ol man milano, scalish,jack white & the rest of the crew.They would give us a sawbuck to watch their cars & mayfield rd be lined w/ caddies & lincolns . They did a driveby to get nardi comin out & missed, two snipers on rr bridge missed him too .Come to think- the cleveland guys had a bunch of bad hits( bad aim) do you remember two of jack whites close associates- paul lish & darby( steveie cocavecchio)he had a brother brassi in vegas(california) close w/ carmen milano.