Yes I think both are still active to a degree. The tough thing to still do in this day an age is collect street tax, or completely control a racket. It sure screwed Sarno.
The only crew that we know for a fact is toast is the heights IMO.
@erickumerow
would u say that grand avenue is still operational?
how is it that they say elmwood park is deactivated but d'amico is still bookmaking?