Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Outfit
Frank Calabrese was referring to the making Ceremony in New York, not Chicago. They were talking about the movie, The Godfather, and how the author must have had a relative in one of the New York Families.

Chicago has never had a making Ceremony.It is irrelevant to a man's stature within the Outfit.

The Feds occassionally put out disinformation on purpose. It's been done for decades.

Btw, if you disagree, that's okay with me but i think it's very rude of you to start calling someone names.

We can respectfully agree to disagree.


Wrong. You can read the documents provided by the U.S. Justice Department in the case, either of the two books written on the case, or any number of articles where Frank Calabrese specifically talks about going through the ceremony himself. I've read the transcripts of the tapes where he's talking to his son and describing taking the blood oath and burning the saint card, which he said he actually felt guilty about.

They could be posted right here but I suspect you would just claim it was "disinformation" from the feds. As if they needed to make up the ceremony angle to convict Calabrese and the rest. rolleyes

Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
I wouldn't say we "know for sure" there isn't a heights crew. The Rush St crew we know for certain was sanctioned into Elmwood Park. We also know there hasn't been a Taylor St crew for years. Both of those events were fairly well publicized.

What happened to an organized Heights crew is a little bit cloudy.


According to the feds back in 2007, there were 4 crews remaining - Elmwood Park, Grand Avenue, Melrose Park, and 26th Street. More recently, in 2011, one FBI official in Chicago said the Outfit was down to "two or three" crews. I think it's safe to say Chicago Heights is gone.


As usual, you are completely clueless.
1. Chicago Heights is far from "gone", and anyone who has even lived in NE Illinois in the past 5 years would know that, even if they were not particularly interested.
2. Chicago has never, I'll say it again NEVER had a making ceremony. It has been part of their unique moniker for 70 years, and anyone who doesn't know that has no business discussing topics like this.
That's what happens when you "Never question the feds"....LOL
What a mook

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