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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: ChiTown]
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08/01/13 02:22 PM
08/01/13 02:22 PM
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12thStreet
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Just as you seem to know mine, right? Ex wives can be VICIOUS lol this is debate and argument how you take it is on you I still think you are my ex wife.  She constantly told me what I was thinking, just like you just did when you talk about my "admiration" for mobsters because I post pictures of them on an OC internet forum (that contains hundreds of pictures of mobsters  ). Apology accepted. An apology was never extended...:) If your skin is thin that's your problem lol...Maybe she would bust your balls cuz she got tired of ironing you Cavarricis, perhaps??? Why do you still wear those??? ...:)
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: 12thStreet]
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08/01/13 03:31 PM
08/01/13 03:31 PM
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ChiTown
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Just as you seem to know mine, right? Ex wives can be VICIOUS lol this is debate and argument how you take it is on you I still think you are my ex wife.  She constantly told me what I was thinking, just like you just did when you talk about my "admiration" for mobsters because I post pictures of them on an OC internet forum (that contains hundreds of pictures of mobsters  ). Apology accepted. An apology was never extended...:) If your skin is thin that's your problem lol...Maybe she would bust your balls cuz she got tired of ironing you Cavarricis, perhaps??? Why do you still wear those??? ...:) Ignore the fact that most people (myself included) just had to google the word "Cavarricis" which was spelled wrong in the first place, uh good comeback? 
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: ChiTown]
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08/01/13 05:08 PM
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions right? (Sonny likey:) You can have your own opinions, but you cant have your own facts.
MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack. CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go. MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'. WILL: So don't go.
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: HuronSocialAthletic]
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08/01/13 07:18 PM
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mulberry
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The Outfit isn't remotely close to being "extinct", and there is nothing that would, or should lead anyone to believe that. Why do you people get so bent out of shape about this? Who cares? What's the difference? They're just trolls and flamers.
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: ChiTown]
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08/01/13 08:16 PM
08/01/13 08:16 PM
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Well since you brought it up Ivy, here you go. I didn't bring it up. You did. So Ivy I guess the question is...since the FBI has said nothing about corruption with the Outfit in Des Plaines, I suppose that current politicians attending the opening party for the restaurant whose owner is a convicted felon and known associate of the Chicago Outfit is just some kind of "coincidence?" lol I'm not sure you are gonna convince anyone on this board of that. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything as far as that photo goes. And that's because I don't go on speculation and innuendo like you do. You have no real info about the significance of the photo so you simply post it and hope people's imaginations will start running wild.
Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: IvyLeague]
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08/02/13 12:58 PM
08/02/13 12:58 PM
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Well since you brought it up Ivy, here you go. I didn't bring it up. You did. So Ivy I guess the question is...since the FBI has said nothing about corruption with the Outfit in Des Plaines, I suppose that current politicians attending the opening party for the restaurant whose owner is a convicted felon and known associate of the Chicago Outfit is just some kind of "coincidence?" lol I'm not sure you are gonna convince anyone on this board of that. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything as far as that photo goes. And that's because I don't go on speculation and innuendo like you do. You have no real info about the significance of the photo so you simply post it and hope people's imaginations will start running wild. I have no real info about the significance either...but I have common sense. When you see polls attending social functions for known mobsters and posing with them for pictures, common sense implies their is corruption. Then again I feel like common sense isn't your forte or you wouldn't be living in Utah 
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: StonePark]
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08/02/13 02:44 PM
08/02/13 02:44 PM
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Quit bashing Utah. I live in Taxifornia, where we have some of the highest state taxes, gas taxes, and number of stupid anti-free market regulations in the country. New York and Mass. are just as bad, or close to it. Utah's economy is better than most other states, and probably lower in corruption too. Dry climate, beautiful scenery, I wouldn't mind relocating to Utah myself (and I'm not a Mormon).
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: Faithful1]
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08/02/13 02:52 PM
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ChiTown
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Quit bashing Utah. I live in Taxifornia, where we have some of the highest state taxes, gas taxes, and number of stupid anti-free market regulations in the country. New York and Mass. are just as bad, or close to it. Utah's economy is better than most other states, and probably lower in corruption too. Dry climate, beautiful scenery, I wouldn't mind relocating to Utah myself (and I'm not a Mormon). Thanks for contributing that to this thread.
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: IvyLeague]
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08/02/13 05:47 PM
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12thStreet
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Keep in mind that ChiTown (Fratto) has always needed to resort to personal attacks because his arguments regarding the Outfit are full of holes. He did it over on the RD forum and that's what ultimately got him banned. He and the rest of the Chicago fanboy crowd just need to start their own forum where they can all worship the Chicago mob (the one that exists only in their head) without being bothered with facts. +1...IKR ??? Some of these guys are like rock groupies..Instead of backstage they're under the tables at Richard's or The Grotto...:) I wonder if there are any pics of THAT that will be posted so we all are REALLY impressed lol
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: SonnyBlackstein]
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08/02/13 06:27 PM
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But that's exactly why they ARE bad men. It's not their physical but mental capability which is the issue.
Navy seals whilst fit, trained guys don't often go round double tapping from back seats.
These guys do. Albert Vena - hero to many of these posters - is all of about 5'2" or 5' 3" and has type 2 diabetes pretty badly. A Navy Seal he is not - but most definitely a killer. Has beaten one murder rap that I can think of and also was acquitted of Attempted Murder of a Chicago Police Officer who tried to execute the arrest warrant for the murder in question. To discuss the Chicago Outfit or the rest of the American Mafia in a historical fashion or in the ways they continue to operate in the 21st Century is indeed fascinating to all of us or we wouldn't be on these boards. That - however - is MUCH different from being akin to those who hold these guys up as Robin Hoods or some anti-heroes when they are neither...
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: 12thStreet]
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08/06/13 12:51 PM
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Chicago
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The Outfit was divided into two sections years ago:
1) The Northern Section (Elmwood Park, Grand Ave) 2) The Southern Section (Cicero, 26th St)
The Northern Section doesn't care what the Southern Section does concerning the Street Rackets. They are free to do what they wish without any interference. They are strictly white collar.
The Southern Section is the Traditional Outfit and concentrates mainly on Street Rackets with some legitimate business.
The Northern Section is now basically just Elmwood Park. A couple of guys and a few associates of theirs answer to Elmwood Park.
Grand Avenue has no Boss, made men, and Soldier/Associates running a full scale organization like years ago. Grand Ave retreated with Elmwood Park years ago. There is no way Elmwood park would retreat without Grand Ave. It was an alliance forged and deeply rooted over the yrears which was discussed an executed by DiFronzo and Lombardo.
Last edited by Chicago; 08/06/13 12:52 PM.
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: StonePark]
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02/13/14 12:19 AM
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Elmwood park mainly does 3 things these days, Legit Real estate and construction, real estate "Dumping", which believe it or not is semi legit,both in conjunction with Rockford, and prostitution/Adult entertainment/Human trafficking in conjunction with the Russians.
Been there and done it I am very much for real, so if you ask, make sure you really want to know.
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: TheArm]
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02/13/14 02:51 PM
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Wow these Chicago threads are a mess. So now people are saying the Outfit is not two separate groups? I am more inclined to agree with guys like Huron who have been consistent. I do not buy that the Cicero crew needs the approval from John Difronzo for everything they do. Any chance one of the knowledgeable Chicago posters can set me straight on who is on top? Is it still Jimmy I, Solly D, Sal Cautadella, and Frank Caruson that are the most influential and have the top spots whatever they may be?
You say share my life, and I think share my tequila. And then I think.... no.-Principal Lewis
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: StonePark]
#763450
02/13/14 04:24 PM
02/13/14 04:24 PM
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Snakes
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Not a Chicago poster but I'll just share some of what I have seen and can speculate on:
1. DiFronzo may be acting in a semi-retired "advisory" capacity, much the same way as Accardo.
2. Marco D'Amico may very well be the boss on the street right now.
3. The next four after Marco, regardless of activity, would be Andriacchi, Pete DiFronzo, Solly D, and Inendino.
4. The next level consists of Matassa, Toots Caruso, Vena, and Tony Dote.
5. The only really heavy guy left would be Cautadella, who may have moved up if one or both of Andriacchi and Pete are done, which is a good chance.
6. Entirely speculation on my part.
"Snakes... Snakes... I don't know no Snakes."
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Re: missing the point about the Outfit
[Re: Snakes]
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02/13/14 05:32 PM
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Gingello101182
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Thank you Snakes. I realize this is speculation but you gave me the information I wanted, thank you. This is why I go on this forum. I really have enjoyed your lists and other posts. Keep up the great work!
You say share my life, and I think share my tequila. And then I think.... no.-Principal Lewis
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