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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764046
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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764053
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bracci :not fair to ask me cus i knew all his family,Not just that back in the day we did not have central air so in summer all our windows were open.And he did not hold back,you could hear him and you knew it was him.The houses were 3 foot apart.Not only that i watched Jr. and mark grow up.and i still hang with his family and i still know things,that make me not like him. But having said that others loved him. When the tax was put out nobody in ducktown had to pay. I will tell a couple stories give me a min.. b right back

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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764058
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Sr. was not like the guy that did fireworks and held block partys, Not him the way he gave back was he never took a dime from us ,We had a club on Mississippi called A.L.K.I. club that was our card room ,Pool room ,Bookie room ,Ect. and he knew it he was there just a couple times .He did not even ask us to kick up never.The club back door ,if you walked out the ally went right to Scarf Inc.just cross over georiga Ave,all of duck town had these allys,

Now on a different occasion Beeps from north Jersey come down he wants to move in cus we just got gambling and he wanted in.
So he remodels a pool hall right on Artic ave. between mississippi ave. and georiga ave. and makes a couple card rooms ect.so we r thinking Nick is going to hit us for $$ he did not but he hit BEEPS and he was made..

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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: Serpiente] #764059
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Yeah no problem, I like to hear the stories.
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764060
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Haha Beeps must have been pissed at that lol
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764061
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seems like the only genuine moments of happiness in scarfo sr's life were when he was clipping somebody or rising to power in LCN, other than that he sounds like he was miserable 24 hours a day. appreciate the stories serp.
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764062
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Yea he tried ,he bent Phils ear,dont know if he did nick ,Nick would never talk anything like that,he would talk food , people ,you know anything but rackets.But Beeps did break some balls , then some of us would go in and play pool and he loosed up over time,but he could never get our bizzz no locals would go to him,unless told to ,and that did happen..

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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764064
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Rollin : Thats what we all would say behind his back, But when he was out he would kinda try to be the life of the party,Not a joke now dont get me wrong..

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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764065
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Talking about card games, I heard the guys used to make money from them by raking the pot or cutting the pot. 5% I think they usually took. What I want to know is, when did they actually take the 5% from the pot? I don't know much about cards but I think during a game u have a number of rises until the players eventually see each others cards. So do they take 5% from every raise made or what?
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: Serpiente] #764066
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Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Sr. was not like the guy that did fireworks and held block partys, Not him the way he gave back was he never took a dime from us ,We had a club on Mississippi called A.L.K.I. club that was our card room ,Pool room ,Bookie room ,Ect. and he knew it he was there just a couple times .He did not even ask us to kick up never.The club back door ,if you walked out the ally went right to Scarf Inc.just cross over georiga Ave,all of duck town had these allys,

Now on a different occasion Beeps from north Jersey come down he wants to move in cus we just got gambling and he wanted in.
So he remodels a pool hall right on Artic ave. between mississippi ave. and georiga ave. and makes a couple card rooms ect.so we r thinking Nick is going to hit us for $$ he did not but he hit BEEPS and he was made..

Beeps wasn't made until after scarfo went to prison he was one of the guys tony piccolo made
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764067
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We did our ours, and some time we would do % ,and other we would go by the night,or by the table, see we had members so at was diff for diff people. this is at our club A.L.K.I.

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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764070
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sonny : never knew that we thought from day one he was made,Just the way he came to town Ect. cus he opened up across the street from a OC guy but Irish , i will tell thatstoiy in a min ,and we all thought what happend to him, that Beeps was made

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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: Serpiente] #764072
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on a shy loan lets say $100 what was the Vig down in AC with Nicky's people? what points did they offer?
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764075
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Beeps , with him mot being made explains what happend. ok this beeps opens a pool hall right across the street to a guy that was doing bizzz in ducktown his bizz was called Mucks Ducks it was a pool hall with the same thing going on just Irish, Anyway Mucks gets wind of Beeps opening right across the street,Dont know exacly what happend but Muck had a black eye the next day, the night before he was on Georgia ave.throing a fit in front of scarf inc. ,Now let me tell you no body did nothing on Nicks street.But now i know why Muck only got a black eye.Beeps was not made.

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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764076
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If you r talking about someone off the street, 3 pts. but all up to the shy, the amount , who u r ,just like a bank.. Just higher

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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: Serpiente] #764077
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I guess the 3 points on a $100 was $30 a week. I've always been interested with the bizz side of the mob. Do you know of any other money schemes the guys pulled. I understand if u don't want to mention names, I'm just interested in the wheeling and dealings the guys did in AC
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764079
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No ,i was not made, i hung and grew up with them, but never did bizz with them , we did our thing ..

WE grew up with each other ,not like Philly and NY
Our hood was small we knew each other grand pops
and they knew ours.They never shit in there back yard.

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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764080
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no its 3 dollars a week. if your coming off the street nobody is going to loan you 100 dollars. too risky if you dont know them for that little amount of money.
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: Serpiente] #764081
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Serp are you the same age as Phil?
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764082
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Yes very close,

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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764084
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Thanks South

I always thought the smaller loans they knocked out where very high interest rates, so to encourage the borrowers to pay the principle back quicker then having it drag out. Because they won't really make that much on the profit on $3 unless the guy is a complete mook and deadbeat lol
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764086
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Yea that too. If you are loaning someone 100 bucks they are most likely a loser and a deadbeat. So you probably are going to want to charge 10 points a week, no less than 5. Honestly, i dont know of too many guys who would even loan so little money, makes no sense.
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: southjerseyoldhead] #764091
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You just reminded me about a program I saw called CRIME INC. It was a while ago. Anyway on it are two wiseguys talking, they are being picked up on a New Jersey State listening device. So these two wiseguys are talking about this other member (I think they were part of the Genovese Family) who had loaned a small loan to a old Italian barber and was burying him with Vig. These two guys were saying it was wrong and that this shylock was a bum who deserved to be hit. I don't remember how much this guy loaned the barber accept that it was considered a small loan. Don't they call it "The knockdown loan"?
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764092
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Sorry it wasn't CRIME Inc it was on youtube on some old documentary can't remember the name of it sorry
Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764095
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Hey Serp did Sr pick his ass if it was itchy or did he have Phil do it? Just wondering. Trying to get an idea on this guy. Thanks

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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764098
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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: philipbracci] #764099
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there are italian criminals but just because they are itlaian doesnt make them in the mafia. The willingness on here to just lump together decent guys into the mafia is kinda sick. im sure their families see the posting on here where their dad, a used car salesmen, gets called a mafia don.

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Re: Philip "Crazy Phil" Leonetti [Re: Serpiente] #764113
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Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Rollin : Thats what we all would say behind his back, But when he was out he would kinda try to be the life of the party,Not a joke now dont get me wrong..

i see what you're saying. speaking of parties, were you there after Nick Sr and Phil beat the Falcone murder case?

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