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2014 Scottish Independence Referendum #763862
02/15/14 01:18 PM
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What do you think the Scots should vote in the referendum on independence from the United Kingdom September 18, 2014?
single choice
Votes accepted starting: 02/15/14 01:13 PM
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll.
Do you think, if Scotland will separated from the UK, Ulster could also vote for secession?
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Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #763965
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I think this was raised once before. Yogi is the best man here to enlighten us here.

Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #764299
02/18/14 07:56 AM
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yes, klydon, but I posted this poll to know What the members thinks of the referendum on the independence of Scotland, and if this referendeum will successful , if could do something like that even in Ulster.

Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #764311
02/18/14 09:50 AM
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The issue of whether Scotland breaks away from the UK or stays is a decidedly more straightforward issue than that of Ulster, which for better or worse will probably be argued over until the day I die!!!


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Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #764312
02/18/14 10:21 AM
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I don't think so, if the referendum in Scotland is successful, it could be another in Ulster within a few years, this is just my opinion.
And yogi, click a answer in the second poll.

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Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #764342
02/18/14 01:16 PM
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Well it all depends on what happens with Scotland so i will plump for that.


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Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #764344
02/18/14 01:23 PM
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ok Yogi,thanks for the honest reply.Honestly, even I'm curious, to see what will happen at September in Scotland.

Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #764345
02/18/14 01:24 PM
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Me as well Furio, me as well.


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Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #766675
03/04/14 08:48 PM
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http://world.time.com/2014/03/04/sean-connery-wants-scottish-independence/

Former James Bond star Sean Connery has come out with a resounding “ay” in favor of Scottish independence.

Though Connery no longer lives in Scotland, he says that Scottish independence from the United Kingdom could spur artistic and creative growth in his home country, as well as boost the film industry there.

“There is no more creative an act than creating a new nation,” Connery wrote in an opinion piece published in British magazine the New Statesman on Tuesday, six months ahead of a Scottish referendum on independence. “A Yes vote in September will capture the attention of the world.”

The former agent 007 and longtime supporter of independence expressed appreciation for his homeland’s burgeoning interest in its roots and the Gaelic language, and said Scotland should strive to to strengthen its cultural identity by voting for independence.

“As a Scot and as someone with a lifelong love for both Scotland and the arts, I believe the opportunity of independence is too good to miss,” said Connery.

But the Scottish public may need more persuasion before it decides to split from the United Kingdom. A recent Ipsos MORI poll found that 55 percent plan to vote ‘no’ in September’s referendum.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #766681
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I have to say that when I read that Sean Connery was coming out, I had something completely different in mind! LOL


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Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: Sicilian Babe] #766694
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
I have to say that when I read that Sean Connery was coming out, I had something completely different in mind! LOL


lol rolleyes These days..who can say...
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity/uncovered-footage-shows-007-hero-2529339


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: Lilo] #766797
03/06/14 05:20 AM
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Connery has lived abroad for the last 40 years!! What a cheek lol


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Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #766840
03/06/14 04:39 PM
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If James Bond is trying to divide Britain then they must be in trouble.

Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #766843
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They wouldnt last five minutes on there own.


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: DE NIRO] #766855
03/06/14 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: DE NIRO
They wouldnt last five minutes on there own.


They have tons of oil and a monopoly on scotch! They would do very well.


"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: dontomasso] #766917
03/07/14 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Originally Posted By: DE NIRO
They wouldnt last five minutes on there own.


They have tons of oil and a monopoly on scotch! They would do very well.


Dont forget the shortbread also..


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: DE NIRO] #766986
03/08/14 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: DE NIRO
They wouldnt last five minutes on there own.


Great analysis, only if the UK had more geniuses like you then w... oh their not there. The only flaw in your detailed criticism of Scottish independence rolleyes

Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: Camarel] #766994
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The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #767251
03/10/14 01:20 PM
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De Niro, but that has to do this video, with the forum topic?

Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #767254
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If Scotland gains independence, the British will have to say goodbye to their loved Union Jack, and return to the old flag?




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Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #767260
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
If Scotland gains independence, the British will have to say goodbye to their loved Union Jack, and return to the old flag?



"Give me kilts, or give me death!"


"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
"Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #767383
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List of Scottish Clans


Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #767419
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Where's William Wallace when you need him!


"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
"Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #767430
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We could always ask Mel Gibson put on a wig, a kilt and bring the sword going around Scotland, to promote the true Scots, to vote yes to the referendum for the independence and perhaps turn to the clan leaders left.

Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #767726
03/13/14 12:34 PM
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I am an Englishman who hates the British government.

I hate the top-down economic and social backwardness it's currently exacerbating, I hate the prolonged and very palpable intellectual damage it's causing, I hate the very real social tensions its domestic and foreign policies are adding to.

I hate the confused and angry nationalism that erupts because of all of these things, the lack of political solidarity, the "us" vs. "them" mentality that springs into action against political strawmen. The racist structures of an outmoded economic system that divides its working class in order to hold it time and again to ransom.

The country's upper echelons are the embodiment of filth.

As a political gesture, Scottish independence is an inherently optimistic proposition that I welcome and encourage. Somebody wants to break away from David Cameron and all of his debased squalor? Great! Can we move the border south so that my native Gateshead falls into Scotland, please? I hear their universities are free to residents too.

(And, perhaps north of the border, the Grammar Nazis are respected.)


...dot com bold typeface rhetoric.
You go clickety click and get your head split.
'The hell you look like on a message board
Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #767727
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Here's an idea: fuck the Queen, the monarchy, the media that protects it, the Prime Minister, his pals, the police, the Mayor of London, the whole Conservative Party, their Lib Dem cohorts, the banks, and everyone who apologises for any of the above. Let's mobilise an independent workers movement and fight for every country's autonomy as well as the full political emancipation of everyone therein.

Bring this country to its fucking knees.


...dot com bold typeface rhetoric.
You go clickety click and get your head split.
'The hell you look like on a message board
Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #767800
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Do you hear the people sing,
Singing the songs of angry men,
It is the music of people who will not be slaves again.
When the beating of your heart,
Echoes the beating of the drum,
There is a life about to start when tomorrow comes.
-Les Miserables

Love your spirit Mick. I can hear William Wallace bellowing..."FREEDOM",
I can hear Richie Havens singing..."FREEDOM", I can hear Martin Luther King proclaiming...Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty we're free at last.

Keep the torch burning.

Last edited by MaryCas; 03/13/14 04:32 PM.

Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: MaryCas] #768078
03/15/14 07:46 AM
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Us Northerners don't care for namby-pamby southern toffs to be honest!!


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Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #768439
03/17/14 01:23 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwLtyvGdNbc&hd=1

The Iron Maiden The Clansman

Wake alone in the hills
With the wind in your face
It feels good to be proud
And be free and a race
That is part of a clan
And to live on highlands
And the air that you breathe
So pure and so clean

When alone on the hills
With the wind in your hair
With a longing to feel...
Just to be free

Is it right to believe
In the need to be free
It's a time when you die
And without asking why
Can't you see what they do
They are grinding us down
They are taking our land
That belongs to the clans

Not alone with a dream
Just want to be free
With a need to belong
I am a clansman... Freedom

It's a time wrought with fear
It's a land wrought with change

If our ancestors could hear
What is happening now
They would turn in their graves
They would all be ashamed
That the land of the free
Has been written in chains
And I know what I want

When the timing is right
Then I'll take what is mine
I am the clansman

And I swear to defend
And we'll fight to the end
And I swear that I'll never
Be taken alive
And I know that we'll stand
And we'll fight for our land
And I swear that my bairns
Will be born free

And I know what I want
When the timing is right
Then I'll take what I want
I am the clansman... freedom

No, no we can't let them take anymore
No we can't let them take anymore
We've the land of the free
….Freedom

Is it right to believe
In the need to be free
It's a time when you die
And without asking why
Can't you see what they do
They are grinding us down
They are taking our land
That belongs to the clans

Not alone with a dream
Just want to be free
With a need to belong
I am a clansman

And I know what I want
When the timing is right
Then I'll take what is mine
I am the clansman... Freedom

And I know what I want
When the timing is right
Then I'll take what is mine
I am the clansman.

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Re: 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum [Re: furio_from_naples] #768631
03/18/14 06:47 AM
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Great song by Iron Maiden, who all hail from the east end of London if I am correct.... whistle


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