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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: USICILIANU]
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04/29/14 09:54 AM
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What about the book about Pitera? Is it worth buying? It was ok. It's worth reading tho.
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Re: Mafia Books
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04/30/14 08:15 AM
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Capeci said it's the best book he's ever read about the early years of the mob. Sounds like pretty high praise to me. Yeah, either its really good or the publisher paid Capeci good money to use his name along with that quote. Not so interested in the well told Luciano creating modern day Cosa Nostra story, but very much interested in the 40s-50s heyday aspect of the book.
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Re: Mafia Books
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04/30/14 10:43 AM
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I'm reading contract killer the story of tony the Greek frankos. Not bad some bs, the Greek didn't think much of joey gallo I've read this one too. you are correct about the bs. I'd call it a work of fiction. Claims to have been on the Jimmy Hoffa hit even though he admits to being in jail at the time.
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Re: Mafia Books
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04/30/14 12:18 PM
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You can "look inside" over on Amazon. It looks to be a pretty good read. Do a keyword search for subjects that you are interested in from that time period and see what kind of results you get. Never thought of doing that using the look inside feature. Great idea thanks.
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Re: Mafia Books
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05/12/14 11:35 AM
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Anyone read Supermob by Gus Russo? How is it? The book is seemingly well-written, but I wonder about the veracity of a good bit of the information it contains. I think that he lets his political feelings slant his reporting. I researched some of his famous statements and found no solid substantiation whatsoever (unless you find Kitty Kelly believable). That caused me to doubt the accuracy of a good bit of the other information in the book that was so well written I had assumed to be true. It also made me reluctant to read "The Outfit". Send me a private message if you want more detail.
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Re: Mafia Books
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05/15/14 07:06 AM
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Capeci said it's the best book he's ever read about the early years of the mob. Sounds like pretty high praise to me. Yeah, either its really good or the publisher paid Capeci good money to use his name along with that quote. Not so interested in the well told Luciano creating modern day Cosa Nostra story, but very much interested in the 40s-50s heyday aspect of the book. Just started it. Seems very academic. There are 100 pages of notes/annotations in the back. But it says that it tells the story of the low level soldiers which could be great. And says it will give new facts about the mob's role in the drug trade and other topics. I hope I can get through it.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: MobMan]
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05/19/14 09:55 AM
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I just bought Gaspipe and Murder Machine . Are those good reads? Yes on "Murder Machine," no on "Gaspipe." But you're free to draw your own conclusions .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia Books
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05/23/14 06:12 AM
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I've been reading Hortis's book, must say I don't understand the fuss over it. Any book that revels in the fact that it includes primary source research I have to wonder about. Every nonfiction book is supposed to have that although we know some probably use 20 other books as their source material. I still think Raabs is the definitive book on New York. Can anyone tell me what Hortis offers us that's new? I think Capeci was being quite generous but did he even read it? I don't believe he's written about it. He did for example write a long column about Mafia Summit which I think is excellent (the writer does make some juvenile factual errors). I just finished "Mob Boss" and thought it had some great insight. I'm also reading Havana Nocturn and am enjoying it a lot. Also still reading Mob and the City, also Mafia Republic. Next up, the Outfit. Any feedback on Mob & City? I'm 3/4 done with it. I think it's good, but like I said above, it's pretty academic. One of his main goals is to refute other mafia books. He's trying to correct misconceptions of the mafia that have been written by other authors. Some of his corrections are amazing, others more nitpicky. I see this book as a much smaller five families that only focuses on the early part of the mob before the 1960s. It focuses on all aspects of mafia life, and provides backup for all its facts. It also makes a point of disproving common myths about the mafia, some included in five families. I think that's pretty new.
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Re: Mafia Books
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05/23/14 06:17 AM
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I'm currently reading Underboss.
Got to say, Gravano is a charismatic guy and I don't get the sense he is making himself out to be more than he was - granted I am only 70 odd pages into it. If you read other books on the gambinos, you will see that many of the other members describe him much differently than he describes himself. They say he is greedy and that he lied to his boss to get permission to kill other members - just to steal their companies - and that he did that many times.
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Re: Mafia Books
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05/23/14 06:19 AM
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Is Gangsters and Goodfellas: Wiseguys, Witness Protection, and Life on the Run by Henry Hill any good? No.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia Books
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05/23/14 06:26 AM
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I just bought Gaspipe and Murder Machine . Are those good reads? Yes on "Murder Machine," no on "Gaspipe." But you're free to draw your own conclusions . I agree. I think Murder Machine is one of the best books about the mafia ever. And a great read for anyone interested in true crime or serial killers. Gaspipe is good as a companion piece to other books. If you are looking for a history of Casso's mafia career, you can get most of it from the good rat by jimmy breslin, five families by selwyn raab or the new book on al d'arco by capeci - all great books. If you are looking for every little fact about Casso, then go ahead and read Gaspipe. But many people have said the book is biased and bends the truth. It's written by a close family friend of his who lived next door to him. I think Casso may have personally edited it.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Owney_Madden]
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05/23/14 03:16 PM
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[ on the BBC documentary from back then as well "Crime Inc." I've read since that he was full of crap. But reading between the lines I think he was probably guilty of portraying himself slightly more heroically than other people remembered him. That's the case to one extent or another with every rat who writes a book.
This life of ours, this is a wonderful life. If you can get through life like this, hey, thats great. But it's very, very unpredictable. There are so many ways you can screw it up.-Paul Castellano (he would know)
"I'm not talking about Italians, I'm talking about criminals."-Joe Valachi
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