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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
[Re: TheMechanic]
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03/14/14 07:50 PM
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Cook, why is your self-esteemed tied to prosperity of the chicago outfit or black criminal gangs? It worse, and sicker variant, of people that do that with sports teams. Except these guys are worthless garbage that kill people that you root for based on bizarre sort of racial or locale nationalism.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
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03/15/14 01:46 AM
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BTw. "fat jack" is jackie dinorscio, the guy who the movie find me guilty was based on. Is this the same DiNorsico's that were in Bob Delaney's book? It's been a while since I read the book, might have to go look for it and give it another read.
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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
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03/15/14 10:39 AM
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@pizzaboy
that type of rhetoric will only hold u back in life
if you're white and mad at black people then you don't understand "your" country
Stop. Please. I like Black people fine. I just don't like you. There's a marked difference between calling out one member of an ethnic group and attacking that group as a whole. And if I crossed a line while going after you, then I apologize to the other Black posters on this board. But my track record here, and in my actual life, speaks for itself. My best friend for over thirty years is a Black man. I have two adult Black Godchildren who still call me Uncle. And as an Italian American, other Italian Americans who walk around acting like Vinny Barbarino drive me up a fucking wall. But such unfortunates do exist. Some people just have to live down to the stereotype. We have our Vinny Barbarinos, the Black community has you. But when the unintelligent are backed into a corner about race, they ALWAYS play the race card. Whether they're White, Black, Asian or Latino. Pizzaboy...pick your arguements, an old saying...never wrestle with a chimney sweep, you always end up dirty. Ignore bullshit and keep posting the good stuff like you always do Thank you, Fergie. That's nice of you to say. And I'm going to take your advice. I'm done with him. Have a nice life, Cook.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
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03/15/14 07:06 PM
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@pizzaboy
that type of rhetoric will only hold u back in life
if you're white and mad at black people then you don't understand "your" country
Stop. Please. I like Black people fine. I just don't like you. There's a marked difference between calling out one member of an ethnic group and attacking that group as a whole. And if I crossed a line while going after you, then I apologize to the other Black posters on this board. But my track record here, and in my actual life, speaks for itself. My best friend for over thirty years is a Black man. I have two adult Black Godchildren who still call me Uncle. And as an Italian American, other Italian Americans who walk around acting like Vinny Barbarino drive me up a fucking wall. But such unfortunates do exist. Some people just have to live down to the stereotype. We have our Vinny Barbarinos, the Black community has you. But when the unintelligent are backed into a corner about race, they ALWAYS play the race card. Whether they're White, Black, Asian or Latino. Pizzaboy...pick your arguements, an old saying...never wrestle with a chimney sweep, you always end up dirty. Ignore bullshit and keep posting the good stuff like you always do Thank you, Fergie. That's nice of you to say. And I'm going to take your advice. I'm done with him. Have a nice life, Cook. Pizzaboy you are one of the most respected and informative posters on this forum you don't need to explain yourself to nobody. And I'm certain the majority of posters on this board woiuld agree with that.
'So I say, “Live and let live.” That’s my motto. “Live and let live.” Anyone who can’t go along with that, take him outside and shoot the motherfucker. It’s a simple philosophy, but it’s always worked in our family.'
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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
[Re: TheMechanic]
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03/16/14 06:03 PM
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Whats the big deal about gotti getting beat up? Everybody on this forum acts like they've never took a beating before. Lot of talk and no show on here
Last edited by bobbyvegas; 03/16/14 06:05 PM.
Thats a lie
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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
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Yes. Gotti took a beating. So what. He was an old(ish) man at the time.
No matter how tough you are, there is always someone tougher out there.
I don't get in fights but the one time I took a beating, I was being scratched by a chick and while I was gentlemanly not putting my hands on her, the guy she was with opportunely sucker punched me in the face.
So lesson 1 is don't let women assault you and lesson 2, if someone is squaring up to you and talking crap, don't take too long to analyse the situation like I did. Just incapacitate them straight away.
Can't be diplomatic. There is no honour in fighting anymore. Like there was in the old days (probably). No shame in that but the praise he got for whacking McBratney was overblown. What a lovely man he was you think Gotti could have taken him on his own? No chance. It took four of them to drag him across one side of the bar to the other I maintain McBratney would have wiped Gotti's clock if they were standing toe to toe.
'So I say, “Live and let live.” That’s my motto. “Live and let live.” Anyone who can’t go along with that, take him outside and shoot the motherfucker. It’s a simple philosophy, but it’s always worked in our family.'
George Carlin
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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
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03/16/14 11:37 PM
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The guy was transferred out to a distant prison for his own safety, no? I'm pretty sure if he stayed in that prison or any N.E prison he would have gotten touched. Since it seemed no one responded I'll give a stab(no pun intended lol) Yes he was.... As the Aryan Brotherhood assigned a hit on the black guy since Gotti came to them looking for revenge over the attack. Prison authorities learned of this and transferred the dude out for his own protection. I heard the guy was mentally disturbed but I don't think the man who attacked Gotti was a part of any gang.
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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
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03/17/14 01:36 AM
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u need george carlin to let you know that people are fucking dumb?
i don't have to play a racism card
yall show your true colors following me around the messageboard Lol what are you on? I don't need George Carlin to tell me you're a complete tool. You give it away yourself cook by living, breathing, and speaking. I don't give a damn if your black, but I do give a damn when you act like an asshole and a troll. But I will follow PB in not engaging you any longer. So long chump.
"Don't ever go against the family again. Ever"- Michael Corleone
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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
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03/17/14 11:54 AM
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@joeschmo
u need george carlin to let you know that people are fucking dumb?
i don't have to play a racism card
yall show your true colors following me around the messageboard Lol what are you on? I don't need George Carlin to tell me you're a complete tool. You give it away yourself cook by living, breathing, and speaking. I don't give a damn if your black, but I do give a damn when you act like an asshole and a troll. But I will follow PB in not engaging you any longer. So long chump. you mean you're done following me around the messageboard? don't do me any favors
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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
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03/17/14 06:08 PM
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Cook, why is your self-esteemed tied to prosperity of the chicago outfit or black criminal gangs? It worse, and sicker variant, of people that do that with sports teams. Except these guys are worthless garbage that kill people that you root for based on bizarre sort of racial or locale nationalism. This
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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
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05/07/14 09:11 AM
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john gotti told somebody to "get the fuck outta the way n-word" while in marion, il
the next day the dapper don got his ass beat in a one on one fight
allegedly on orders of jeff fort I'm surprised he just got his ass beat up. Either way he's total trash and deserved what he got for being racist.
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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
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05/07/14 03:52 PM
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The only reason why that black dude beat up john gotti was because gotti is an old man and black dude beat up an old man that can barely fight. That's real tough beating on an old dude that can barely get around. I agree with you in principle, Botz. But you know what? He mouthed off to the wrong guy and he got bested. It happens. And Black guys in stir for life just don't give a fuck if you're a goombah with a social club on 101st Avenue. Prison's a whole new ballgame today.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Prison stories about mobsters
[Re: SEAN_SOUTH]
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05/07/14 10:26 PM
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Yes. Gotti took a beating. So what. He was an old(ish) man at the time.
No matter how tough you are, there is always someone tougher out there.
I don't get in fights but the one time I took a beating, I was being scratched by a chick and while I was gentlemanly not putting my hands on her, the guy she was with opportunely sucker punched me in the face.
So lesson 1 is don't let women assault you and lesson 2, if someone is squaring up to you and talking crap, don't take too long to analyse the situation like I did. Just incapacitate them straight away.
Can't be diplomatic. There is no honour in fighting anymore. Like there was in the old days (probably). No shame in that but the praise he got for whacking McBratney was overblown. What a lovely man he was you think Gotti could have taken him on his own? No chance. It took four of them to drag him across one side of the bar to the other I maintain McBratney would have wiped Gotti's clock if they were standing toe to toe. The thing about most of these LCN guys is that they are basically just average Joe's with a lot of organizational muscle behind them; meaning, they are powerful and feared because they are part of a violent criminal organization that has been in existence for nearly 100 years. But you take the average mob guy out of his element, and what do you have: just a guy. A lot of people think that being a mobster in and of itself magically raises a guy's 'tough guy' factor ten-fold; that an out of shape, middle-aged, untrained 'wise guy' will all of a sudden turn into a ninja throwing kicks and leg sweeps when in a physical confrontation. These guys get by on intimidation and fear, but most of the time, that intimidation and fear isn't because of some great fighting skill or physical toughness. I think your average street gang member is probably a bigger physical threat than most of your average made guys, mainly because they tend to be younger, fitter, and more volatile. Sitting around in social clubs, drinking espresso and smoking cigars, isn't good preparation for fighting. But of course there are some strong, capable guys in the mob, as there are in any criminal organization, but I doubt those guys are the norm. And Gotti was so used to being the 'big man' and barking out orders that he probably still had that 'boss mentality' where his word was KING.
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