I have a mugshot of Pranno I can upload, but don't know how to upload pics from my hard drive (not here anyway). Anyway, the mugshot of Pranno looks very different than the man on Fosco's photo.

Not sure if it matters since it appears he isn't going to release the names any time soon...

FAITHFUL - do you feel strongly that its ferraro ? I dont know the physical size of either but I thought the man in photo seemed small in size. I have seen the 2nd photo of ferraro before but not the first. IMO the 1st photo of ferraro looks much more like the unidentified man in photo than the 2nd. Do you see the resemblance to blasi ?

I only provided the photos of Ferraro for the other posters. I don't think he was there.

Recently found a photo of Dominic Senese, although its from the late 1970s. I think it's possible that he was the smiling man with the shades across from Amato.

Ferraro may have been there. Dominic Senese definitely was not on a leadership level in the 1950s. Any guy at that table are guys who probably worked for Al Capone or Frank Nitti.

Or for Paul ricca, obviously

no one else see the butch blasi resemblance ? he was accardos driver in the 50's

I posted a pic right after your comment and agreed. You sure he drove for Accardo? I thought he was Mooney's guy.

Yeah, Blasi was a Giancana guy but he drove for Accardo in the seventies and eighties. It's possible, but I don't think it's him in the photo.

Senese was 75 in 1992 when he survived the hit on him (born in 1917), so he would've been in his upper 30s or just over 40 when the picture was taken. The guy in shades looks older than that to me.

I do see a resemblance to Blasi (especially his chin), but my gut says it's Ferraro. I've read again and again that he oozed Outfit wherever he went, and the guy in shades sure seems to as well.

Anybody have any decent pics of Joe Amabile from that era, or at all? The recent Pranno post got me thinking he could also be a possibility for this photo, perhaps the guy blowing dice?

Also, take a look at this photo of Teets Battaglia circa 1933:



Could that be him 20 years later sitting on the right next to the guy in glasses and 2 down from Cerone?

Guys, I occasionally write an article for a website and have started a series on the mob. The first details the background to Family Secrets so it may not cover any new territory for you guys but I thought I would post it anyways. I tried to stay pretty neutral and not add any conjecture or personal opinion into the article; I wanted to keep it as strictly narrative in focus:

http://culturecrossfire.com/etc/marks-mob-corner-operation-family-secrets-part-1/

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.

Appears to me you're off to a darn good start. Of course there are all kinds of stories to be told, but this looks to me like a very good initial posting.

It would sure appear to me that Fosco's right about Pranno. That other pic it's Rocco Potenza.

^^^Yep based on that I'd say that's correct. What book is that from?

It's from The Don: The Life and Death of Sam Giancana, by William Brashler.

I now think that Potenza is the handsome guy in the ANP photo sitting and smiling in the back right. Might be getting close to 7 now...

1. Amato
2. Accardo
3. Pranno
4. ??? (Gagliano?)
5. ??? (Amabile?)
6. Potenza
7. ??? (Battaglia?)
8. ??? (Adduci?)
9. Cerone
10. ??? (Ferraro?)

Can we figure this out already?!

How sure are we that #1 is Amato, and is this not looking more like a Taylor St affair?

Do you recommend that book on Giancana JJB?


NVM it appears to be out of print..and I'm not shelling out a fortune for a used copy.

Captive City by Ovid DeMaris has a really cool appendix in the back with not only a lexicon of all the gangsters at the time (and maybe before the book was published, can't remember); it has a list of all of their favorite haunts--most gone now--and, get this, their home addresses! Ha. Can't imagine the mob appreciated that.

Here's a magazine selection out of Brashler's book. I guess it's the book you guys are talking about. Hope it opens.

http://books.google.com/books?id=5ugCAAA...ana&f=false

Thanks. Is this considered the definitive mooney book? Or is there another one you'd recommend? Not real interested in a CIA Castro cloak and dagger focus. Prefer a book focused on his Outfit life.

what is NVM?

Believe it's internet speak for 'Nevermind'.

LOL, thanks Sonny, i dont speak internet

what book are they talking about?

i promised i wouldnt go into a chicago thread because its basically the special olympics of mafia threads and thats speaking highly but im a nut for rare books

Not sure about the definitive Giancana book. I have read extensively about the Ricca, Accardo and Giancana era. Most of my information comes from books by John Binder and Gus Russo. I've read old newspaper articles and exchanged emails with some Outfit historians in Chicago; also telephone conversations . Much of the information is redundant, but from time-to-time I learn something new. I've also utilized FBI files and read stories by former FBI agents, i.e.Wayne Johnson, James Wagner, Lee Flosi, etc. Anything that is related to the era I mentioned, I read or seek out information.

A few years ago I became a "Family Secrets" addict.

I consider my "dumb as a coal bucket" compared with some folks on this board. There are some really well informed people. Unfortunately, there are some others. I just read and do basic research; some of these guys from Chicago are really well-informed. I'm from Tennessee and about the only thing I'm connected to is the Internet .

Some of the newspaper articles are PPV. I do have a number of them bookmarked. You can get a brief summary without paying. You are welcome to anything I have.

Check Jonnynonos last entry for name of book and author.

you chi-town boys havent learned copy and past yet huh?

i kid

appreciate it gary

not that rare, you can get it used for $9

I don't know if it's definitive but I read Double Cross by Giancana's brother Chuck.

It is fairly entertaining but I don't believe barely anything in that book; if you think people on this forum overestimate the reach of the Outfit, they are coldly objective compared to that book.

It basically says the Outfit was behind every major event of the 20th century, including the Vietnam war and a bunch of other similiarly laughable hoo-ha.

However, there were probably a few facts in there somewhere... sun/dog's a**, etc.

Hope you reconsider. I enjoy your comments. I do know what you're saying and become very frustrated with the back' n forth foolishness. I do enjoy Outfit readings, especially the history, and appreciate the knowledge of all the guys, including the fellows who are suspended. But these personal attacks are totally unnecessary and a waste of time. The subject of discussion is quickly forgotten and the insults begin.

Sorry for venting. Hope you reconsider.