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Buffalo taking the war to the columbo family.
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Any thoughts. About peter Faulk
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Read and Learn.... Note that the battleground was almost totally Utica, There are those of us who were spoiling to take it to Brooklyn. Mastracco was a Buffalo associate who Bretti thought was a mole, he was in fat informing on both the Colombos and Buffalo. The people mentioned in the second paragraph were members of the the Falange crew (Buffalo) This is just a tiny snippet of what went on from 76 to 91
The decade begins with the release of Dominic Bretti from prison in 1979 who sets up a crew -- including Donato "Danny" Nappi, Anthony John D'Amico, Jack "Jake" Minicone and Dawn Grillo -- with the reputed backing of the Colombo crime family from New York City. However, Bretti's run was brief because his conversations were being recorded by Anthony Mastracco who was an informant for the FBI. In 1980 Bretti and D'Amico were convicted for conspiring to murder Utica tavern owner Richard Clair, and in 1982 Bretti, Nappi and D'Amico were convicted for the 1979 murder of Grillo who allegedly had stolen $4,000 from him. The decade ends with a federal racketering trial which finally brings down the remaining players -- Jack "Jake" Minicone, Anthony Inserra, Jack "Turk" Zogby, Benny Carcone, and his son Russell Carcone -- in the Salvatore and Joseph Falcone enterprise which had controlled the rackets in the city for 70 years through violent intimidation and public corruption. Unfortunately, however, the "key players who built the foundation . . . were never charged." Salvatore Falcone died in 1972, and his younger brother Joseph was a near-senile old man listed in the government's prosecution as an unindicted co-conspirator. Other unindicted co-conspirators in the racketeering case included "loansharking chief [Anthony] Falange, [and] gambling kingpin Angelo Conte" who were dead. Joseph Falcone died at 90 on March 27, 1992,
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Read and Learn.... Note that the battleground was almost totally Utica, There are those of us who were spoiling to take it to Brooklyn. Mastracco was a Buffalo associate who Bretti thought was a mole, he was in fat informing on both the Colombos and Buffalo. The people mentioned in the second paragraph were members of the the Falange crew (Buffalo) This is just a tiny snippet of what went on from 76 to 91
The decade begins with the release of Dominic Bretti from prison in 1979 who sets up a crew -- including Donato "Danny" Nappi, Anthony John D'Amico, Jack "Jake" Minicone and Dawn Grillo -- with the reputed backing of the Colombo crime family from New York City. However, Bretti's run was brief because his conversations were being recorded by Anthony Mastracco who was an informant for the FBI. In 1980 Bretti and D'Amico were convicted for conspiring to murder Utica tavern owner Richard Clair, and in 1982 Bretti, Nappi and D'Amico were convicted for the 1979 murder of Grillo who allegedly had stolen $4,000 from him. The decade ends with a federal racketering trial which finally brings down the remaining players -- Jack "Jake" Minicone, Anthony Inserra, Jack "Turk" Zogby, Benny Carcone, and his son Russell Carcone -- in the Salvatore and Joseph Falcone enterprise which had controlled the rackets in the city for 70 years through violent intimidation and public corruption. Unfortunately, however, the "key players who built the foundation . . . were never charged." Salvatore Falcone died in 1972, and his younger brother Joseph was a near-senile old man listed in the government's prosecution as an unindicted co-conspirator. Other unindicted co-conspirators in the racketeering case included "loansharking chief [Anthony] Falange, [and] gambling kingpin Angelo Conte" who were dead. Joseph Falcone died at 90 on March 27, 1992, What does this have to do with peter Faulk ?
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Read and Learn.... Note that the battleground was almost totally Utica, There are those of us who were spoiling to take it to Brooklyn. Mastracco was a Buffalo associate who Bretti thought was a mole, he was in fat informing on both the Colombos and Buffalo. The people mentioned in the second paragraph were members of the the Falange crew (Buffalo) This is just a tiny snippet of what went on from 76 to 91
The decade begins with the release of Dominic Bretti from prison in 1979 who sets up a crew -- including Donato "Danny" Nappi, Anthony John D'Amico, Jack "Jake" Minicone and Dawn Grillo -- with the reputed backing of the Colombo crime family from New York City. However, Bretti's run was brief because his conversations were being recorded by Anthony Mastracco who was an informant for the FBI. In 1980 Bretti and D'Amico were convicted for conspiring to murder Utica tavern owner Richard Clair, and in 1982 Bretti, Nappi and D'Amico were convicted for the 1979 murder of Grillo who allegedly had stolen $4,000 from him. The decade ends with a federal racketering trial which finally brings down the remaining players -- Jack "Jake" Minicone, Anthony Inserra, Jack "Turk" Zogby, Benny Carcone, and his son Russell Carcone -- in the Salvatore and Joseph Falcone enterprise which had controlled the rackets in the city for 70 years through violent intimidation and public corruption. Unfortunately, however, the "key players who built the foundation . . . were never charged." Salvatore Falcone died in 1972, and his younger brother Joseph was a near-senile old man listed in the government's prosecution as an unindicted co-conspirator. Other unindicted co-conspirators in the racketeering case included "loansharking chief [Anthony] Falange, [and] gambling kingpin Angelo Conte" who were dead. Joseph Falcone died at 90 on March 27, 1992, What does this have to do with peter Faulk ? He once performed at the Stanly theatre in the 50s, what does that have to do with Buffalo? 
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Read and Learn.... Note that the battleground was almost totally Utica, There are those of us who were spoiling to take it to Brooklyn. Mastracco was a Buffalo associate who Bretti thought was a mole, he was in fat informing on both the Colombos and Buffalo. The people mentioned in the second paragraph were members of the the Falange crew (Buffalo) This is just a tiny snippet of what went on from 76 to 91
The decade begins with the release of Dominic Bretti from prison in 1979 who sets up a crew -- including Donato "Danny" Nappi, Anthony John D'Amico, Jack "Jake" Minicone and Dawn Grillo -- with the reputed backing of the Colombo crime family from New York City. However, Bretti's run was brief because his conversations were being recorded by Anthony Mastracco who was an informant for the FBI. In 1980 Bretti and D'Amico were convicted for conspiring to murder Utica tavern owner Richard Clair, and in 1982 Bretti, Nappi and D'Amico were convicted for the 1979 murder of Grillo who allegedly had stolen $4,000 from him. The decade ends with a federal racketering trial which finally brings down the remaining players -- Jack "Jake" Minicone, Anthony Inserra, Jack "Turk" Zogby, Benny Carcone, and his son Russell Carcone -- in the Salvatore and Joseph Falcone enterprise which had controlled the rackets in the city for 70 years through violent intimidation and public corruption. Unfortunately, however, the "key players who built the foundation . . . were never charged." Salvatore Falcone died in 1972, and his younger brother Joseph was a near-senile old man listed in the government's prosecution as an unindicted co-conspirator. Other unindicted co-conspirators in the racketeering case included "loansharking chief [Anthony] Falange, [and] gambling kingpin Angelo Conte" who were dead. Joseph Falcone died at 90 on March 27, 1992, What does this have to do with peter Faulk ? He once performed at the Stanly theatre in the 50s, what does that have to do with Buffalo? What did he perform thought he just did that show columbo. Was he on stage with his rain coat and note pad telling jokes
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fat tony got picked up on the wiretap saying the big boys in nyc will make the decision on who would be boss, but carmine will be like the key factor in the thing. arm why did persico have so much clout in upstate ny. was it like a satellite family. 2 different factions kept going to meetings at palmaboys club to see who the boss would be and fat tony was getting recorded the whole time. Greed met oppertunity, and Persico and Bretti underestemated Falcone and Falange. Joe Falcone was in LCN for 60 years, did almost no time and died of natural causes. Persico should thank GOD Falcone was still calling the shots and decided to contain the problem, becuse there were those who wanted to take it to Persico's front door.
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Re: Buffalo taking the war to the columbo family.
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Read and Learn.... Note that the battleground was almost totally Utica, There are those of us who were spoiling to take it to Brooklyn. Mastracco was a Buffalo associate who Bretti thought was a mole, he was in fat informing on both the Colombos and Buffalo. The people mentioned in the second paragraph were members of the the Falange crew (Buffalo) This is just a tiny snippet of what went on from 76 to 91
The decade begins with the release of Dominic Bretti from prison in 1979 who sets up a crew -- including Donato "Danny" Nappi, Anthony John D'Amico, Jack "Jake" Minicone and Dawn Grillo -- with the reputed backing of the Colombo crime family from New York City. However, Bretti's run was brief because his conversations were being recorded by Anthony Mastracco who was an informant for the FBI. In 1980 Bretti and D'Amico were convicted for conspiring to murder Utica tavern owner Richard Clair, and in 1982 Bretti, Nappi and D'Amico were convicted for the 1979 murder of Grillo who allegedly had stolen $4,000 from him. The decade ends with a federal racketering trial which finally brings down the remaining players -- Jack "Jake" Minicone, Anthony Inserra, Jack "Turk" Zogby, Benny Carcone, and his son Russell Carcone -- in the Salvatore and Joseph Falcone enterprise which had controlled the rackets in the city for 70 years through violent intimidation and public corruption. Unfortunately, however, the "key players who built the foundation . . . were never charged." Salvatore Falcone died in 1972, and his younger brother Joseph was a near-senile old man listed in the government's prosecution as an unindicted co-conspirator. Other unindicted co-conspirators in the racketeering case included "loansharking chief [Anthony] Falange, [and] gambling kingpin Angelo Conte" who were dead. Joseph Falcone died at 90 on March 27, 1992, What does this have to do with peter Faulk ? He once performed at the Stanly theatre in the 50s, what does that have to do with Buffalo? What did he perform thought he just did that show columbo. Was he on stage with his rain coat and note pad telling jokes He had an extensive stage career,best known for "The Prisoner of Second Avenue"...but I digress
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Hey is there a picture of peter Faulk and persico and a few of the buffalo crew. Like the old shot of sinatra and don carlo. Just saying you never no or would that be in rare photo sec
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Hey is there a picture of peter Faulk and persico and a few of the buffalo crew. Like the old shot of sinatra and don carlo. Just saying you never no or would that be in rare photo sec Yeah, Faulk, Bretti, Carcone, Me, Nappi, the Mayor of Horseheads NY, Joe Falcone and Paddy Calabrese who came out of the WPP just for the photo op.
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Read and Learn.... Note that the battleground was almost totally Utica, There are those of us who were spoiling to take it to Brooklyn. Mastracco was a Buffalo associate who Bretti thought was a mole, he was in fat informing on both the Colombos and Buffalo. The people mentioned in the second paragraph were members of the the Falange crew (Buffalo) This is just a tiny snippet of what went on from 76 to 91
The decade begins with the release of Dominic Bretti from prison in 1979 who sets up a crew -- including Donato "Danny" Nappi, Anthony John D'Amico, Jack "Jake" Minicone and Dawn Grillo -- with the reputed backing of the Colombo crime family from New York City. However, Bretti's run was brief because his conversations were being recorded by Anthony Mastracco who was an informant for the FBI. In 1980 Bretti and D'Amico were convicted for conspiring to murder Utica tavern owner Richard Clair, and in 1982 Bretti, Nappi and D'Amico were convicted for the 1979 murder of Grillo who allegedly had stolen $4,000 from him. The decade ends with a federal racketering trial which finally brings down the remaining players -- Jack "Jake" Minicone, Anthony Inserra, Jack "Turk" Zogby, Benny Carcone, and his son Russell Carcone -- in the Salvatore and Joseph Falcone enterprise which had controlled the rackets in the city for 70 years through violent intimidation and public corruption. Unfortunately, however, the "key players who built the foundation . . . were never charged." Salvatore Falcone died in 1972, and his younger brother Joseph was a near-senile old man listed in the government's prosecution as an unindicted co-conspirator. Other unindicted co-conspirators in the racketeering case included "loansharking chief [Anthony] Falange, [and] gambling kingpin Angelo Conte" who were dead. Joseph Falcone died at 90 on March 27, 1992, Waow...did you just copy and paste this? http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/friends_of_ours/2009/05/page/15/
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Hey is there a picture of peter Faulk and persico and a few of the buffalo crew. Like the old shot of sinatra and don carlo. Just saying you never no or would that be in rare photo sec Yeah, Faulk, Bretti, Carcone, Me, Nappi, the Mayor of Horseheads NY, Joe Falcone and Paddy Calabrese who came out of the WPP just for the photo op. And persico. Which persico carmine or ally boy
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I DID..except the forst paragraph...Why?..if I had wrote it out freehand would you be more likely to beleive it? The story has HUGE gaps, if you are interested we can reverse engeneer this, I can fill them in and then you can do the reserch for accuracy
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I DID...Why..if I had wrote it out freehand would you be more likely to beleive it? The story has HUGE gaps, if you are interested we can reverse engeneer this, I can fill them in and then you can do the reserch for accuracy The peter Faulk persico buffalo picture has huge gaps OH NO
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I DID..except the forst paragraph...Why?..if I had wrote it out freehand would you be more likely to beleive it? The story has HUGE gaps, if you are interested we can reverse engeneer this, I can fill them in and then you can do the reserch for accuracy You wish. Read and learn...
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I DID..except the forst paragraph...Why?..if I had wrote it out freehand would you be more likely to beleive it? The story has HUGE gaps, if you are interested we can reverse engeneer this, I can fill them in and then you can do the reserch for accuracy You wish. Read and learn... I wish what? People like you make me LMAO On one hand, you want liiiiiiiiiiiinks ciiiiiiiitations to any claim anyone makes, then when the liiiiiink or ciiiiiiitation is provided, you complain that it was a cut and paste. You need to make up your mind Sport
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At least quote the Author of the text, i made the mistake of copy and pasting album reviews on here before.. Fair enough This was from a series in the Utica newspapers. The left out a LOT of detail and got a few things wrong, but for the media it was a not-too-bad rundown on the Colombo-Buffalo battles, which were collateral battles of the ABC wars
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http://www.uticaod.com/x1518870796/The-Mob-Files-Day-7More.... It was later found via wiretap that this was not supposed to be a hit, but a simple burglary. The Colombos wanted the files on their associate AJ D'Amico to see if he was seeking a deal since he was implicated in the Grillo hit. Dequino was just in the wrong place at the wrong time
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That link is a really interesting read, thanks. http://www.uticaod.com/x1518870796/The-Mob-Files-Day-7More.... It was later found via wiretap that this was not supposed to be a hit, but a simple burglary. The Colombos wanted the files on their associate AJ D'Amico to see if he was seeking a deal since he was implicated in the Grillo hit. Dequino was just in the wrong place at the wrong time
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That link is a really interesting read, thanks. http://www.uticaod.com/x1518870796/The-Mob-Files-Day-7More.... It was later found via wiretap that this was not supposed to be a hit, but a simple burglary. The Colombos wanted the files on their associate AJ D'Amico to see if he was seeking a deal since he was implicated in the Grillo hit. Dequino was just in the wrong place at the wrong time No problem...more to come on the Colombo-Buffalo war when I have a chance.
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http://fultonhistory.com/newspaper%202/U...%20-%201041.pdfIn the long history of Colombo blunders, this may have been the biggest blunder of all...The Falange crew (Buffalo) had beat them down to a handful of guys and their skipper Dominick Bretti, and they were left to nibble on crumbs in Upstate NY, and in the middle of it all they murder a woman,(over nothing) get caught on tape with a Buffalo turncoat who was actually an FBI informent, and put the final nail of the coffin of the Columbos in Upstate NY. We won, and we celebrated, but not for long...stay tuned
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http://fultonhistory.com/newspaper%202/U...%20-%201041.pdfIn the long history of Colombo blunders, this may have been the biggest blunder of all...The Falange crew (Buffalo) had beat them down to a handful of guys and their skipper Dominick Bretti, and they were left to nibble on crumbs in Upstate NY, and in the middle of it all they murder a woman,(over nothing) get caught on tape with a Buffalo turncoat who was actually an FBI informent, and put the final nail of the coffin of the Columbos in Upstate NY. We won, and we celebrated, but not for long...stay tuned How the fall of the Colombos in Upstate NY, brought down some of the Buffalo crew along with them...If you wonder why I speak with such hate for the Colombos in these Fora...this is why. For the record, they got one major and important detail worong, they implicated the Falange crew in the Marrone hit. That isnot the case, it was the Colombo crew who whacked marrone and in fact, that is what escalated the war. http://www.uticaod.com/x272613696/Utica-...evisited/?tag=2
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@ TheArm, I don't mean to pry but are you connected? You seem pretty knowledgeable and whether it's all bullshit or not, I enjoy reading your posts, mate. O ya hes connected all right, da word is that hes a high ranking member(possibly in the administration) of the Google Crime Family! Hahaha!
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arm who was the guy the Springfield genovese crew shot in the barn in the 80tys said he was from uttica and tried to muscle in western mass. Angelo Bruno was acquired at state trial. crazy Phil took the stand. I like ya stories I don't care if no one else.does. everyone entiittled to there own opinion. The guys name was Angelo Bennadatto, his daughter was beaten nearly to death in Florida a few weeks late ...and thank you.
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