Snakes - here's a link to some pictures from Wayne Johnson's blog. Might want to take a look. At the bottom of each page look at "older post." Two or three pages of some pictures. Most you've probably seen, but you might come across something that would help identify these guys. Good luck.


http://ahistoryofviolenceinchicago.blogspot.com

I am armed with some new intel per a response from Fosco himself. I submitted the following:

1. Amato
2. Tuna
3. Pranno
4. Gagliano
5. Fischetti
6. Potenza
7. Ferriola (back turned pants wet; was a wild guess)
8. Palermo
9. Adduci
10. Cerone
11. DeStefano

He had this to say:



But maddeningly, no mention of how many correct. Swap out Ricca for Cerone, and bingo? It can't be that easy, can it?

I don't know, I think I'm done with this.

Could Aducci be 5th from left with his shirt open?

The hair, nose and eyebrows match, as does the pinkie ring.

I gave up a long time ago.

Fosco doesn't even know who all of these guys are.

chitown. ive been looking at that photo for months, I don't know the guys in the outfit. only read about them.

but, I can identify accardo, amato, fishetti, pranno, and giancana. fosco is pulling a hustle. hes as clueless as anybody else.

Binnie, which do you believe is Pranno, Fishetti, and Giancana?

ok, pranno is behind batters, fischetti is the one with his shirt open, wearing a watch. the bald headed guy sitting away from batters, and, next to the guy with the sunglasses looks more like giancana than cerone.

That's Potenza not Pranno.

ok, you're right he wasn't called parrot nose for nothing, now, next to fishetti is pranno, on fishettis right. so it's


1- amato
2- batters
3-potenza
4-behind Potenza- unknown
5- fishetti
6-pranno
7-unknown
8-unknown
9-unknown
10-giancana
11-aducci

im pretty sure about 1 through6.

I still think 10 is Cerone.

I can't see cerone, if you look at some pics of giancana, without a hat, it could be him. oh, by the way in the parking lot is a 56 chevy. pic must be 1956.

My main reason is that Cerone was always a bit chubbier and the guy in the pic looks consistent with Jack's weight. Who knows though, you could be right.

Mooney still had a little hair on top at this time.
This guy has nothing left but the Hippocratic wreath.

Yep. I don't think Mooney's hair was that far gone either.

..Why the fuck is Fosco ranting about the innocence of bill cosby.

This is not what I was expecting on ANP

Alright, since we drug this up again, here are my guesses with supporting photos.



I tried to use photos from the era, in the cases of Nicoletti and DeStefano I used multiple images that span the period.
I have no guesses for #7, the soggy bottom boy or #8, pencil neck.
I have only changed my mind on one in the 9 months since I sent my list to Fosco (and received no reply). I came around to the notion that the cigar man was DeStefano.

Here's my guesses:
1. Amato
2. Accardo
3. Potenza (I used to think it was Simonelli too until I saw that Rocco Potenza looks even more like this guy)
4. UNK (not Gagliano, doesn't look like him to me)
5. Palermo
6. UNK (not Nicoletti, was thinking possibly Lombardi, but still too many differences)
7. UNK
8. Adduci
9. Cerone
10. UNK (does sort of look like DeStefano though, I'll give you that)

pk dickman, put in Potenza for simonelli, fishetti for Palermo. pranno for nicoletti, by the way these guys aren't taylor street. are they? I can't see a taylor st, guy in the photo.

yeah, I take back the guess of giancana, it's cerone, also like my last post, where are the taylor st. crews?

I don't think that's Nicoletti, but the Palermo guess is a good one.

Not a guess. I knew Nick when I worked at a jewelery store in Elmwood Pk, back in the 80s. I just knew him as Nicky the plumber. He would come around with stuff that needed fixing about once a month. He would hang around the workroom all day chewin the fat. I didn't realize he was Nick Palermo until his wake.
I knew Nicoletti by sight as well. I cooked or bussed in a half dozen restaurants in Northlake, Melrose and Franklin Parks ca. 72-76 we knew to keep his cigarette lit and not to spill coffee on him.

That's definitely not Chuckie Nicoletti - as a young man, he had light hair. I wonder if that might instead be Joe Fischetti or perhaps even a younger Ross Prio.

I would say that could be Aducci based on looks, though I wonder if a state rep of that caliber would be stupid enough to play cards with a bunch of hoods in a public park. It could also be Rocco Fischetti who also had hair like that.

I think that could be DeStefano as the last guy - that's a great guess.

For what it's worth, Fosco mentioned to me in an email that Gags definitely wasn't in the pic, and intimated that the only way DeStefano would have been in the pic were Ricca to be in it as well. Hence, Cerone/Mooney would be Ricca.

EDIT: Not that any of this matters, as Fosco's probably too busy defending Bill Cosby (yeah, he seems to have lost the plot a bit) to respond anyway.

Adduci was either an associate or an actual member of the old Grand Avenue Crew in the 1930s before he went into politics. The Outfit in its heyday had politicians and probably judges who were actual made members.

Yeah but even so, guys in office needed to be smart and not associate so openly with hoods.

I believe Adduci resigned his post before he was to be indicted on conspiracy charges. Perhaps this could be "after" he had resigned and there was no more need to hide his association?

First that isn't Fischetti.
Here's pic of the Fischetti brothers while Charlie was alive (died early in '51)


We know Fosco's pic in no earlier than '56 ('56 Belair in the pic)

Joey(right) is already balding and paunchy.

Next, we don't necessarily see every one in attendance, just a bunch of guys around one picnic table. Anyone else could be milling around.
Third, don't assume that this is some kind of meeting, it may just be a picnic.

In '56, Joe B held the last July 4th party at his home. In '58 they started holding them at Jackie the Lackey's house.

Perhaps they held the 1957 party at a picnic grove.
As such it was a social event and anyone who didn't have a contract out on them may have been there.

They were pretty open about their associations. Roland Libonati defended Capone and the rest of his Outfit buddies even while he sat in Congress.

Good points all around - I am definitely wrong on Fischetti. Someone should send this photo to a John Binder or someone similar and get their guesses.

I'm convinced that Fosco doesnt fucking know.