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Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: TheAustralian] #776106
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Boston and I think je has connections in Ny jersey and Philly but


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
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Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: TheMechanic] #776133
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Originally Posted By: TheMechanic
What was Gentile's status(family)? Was it Philadelphia?


Do you mean Nicola Gentile? He was made with the Philly Family, transfered to Kansas City and then Cleveland, if I remember correctly. He was the consigliere in the Cleveland Family before he transfered to be under Vincent Mangano in NY. So Gentile moved around a lot.


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Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: Joerusso] #776185
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Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Biago Digiacomo was made in Sicily and Boston.



does he still own the restaurant?


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Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: Joerusso] #776187
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Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Biago Digiacomo was made in Sicily and Boston.

Did he actually go through the ceremony again in boston or did they just recognize him as a made guy because he was made in sicily?


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Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: Dellacroce] #776194
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Biago Digiacomo was made in Sicily and Boston.

Did he actually go through the ceremony again in boston or did they just recognize him as a made guy because he was made in sicily?


If he was officially made in Boston, he would have dishonored himself in Sicily and would not be able to return there with the same status; he'd be renounced.


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Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: HairyKnuckles] #776207
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Yes, I think he was with Pittsburgh, I was mistaken about Philly. He also retired to Sicily, he really was all over the place.

Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: TheAustralian] #776228
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Florida was/is a place where fluidity and exchange between families was more common. Peanuts Tronolone for example.

Some others:

Stefano Randazzo was a made Cleveland guy who became Trafficante's driver in Miami

Agostino Amato was a made Gambino guy who was a Trafficante associate

Vincent Amato was a made Gambino guy who became part of the Trafficante Miami crew under Steve Raffa (who may have been made Tampa and in Sicily)

Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: TheAustralian] #776258
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Scott I get what you're saying. In connecticut everyone makes money with everyone. 3 families predominantly have a presence here. But what I think Carm and Pizza are saying is you can't "made" into two which I concur with. Ceremony. Pricked finger and all that bs. Good post though


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Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: TheAustralian] #776265
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Do you think that they still make people the way they did years ago with the gun, knife, saint burning etc, or they do it a whole different way today. The reason i ask this with the amount of rats and the heat from the feds would they want to risk getting caught up in this type of ceremony?

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Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: TheAustralian] #776266
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Does the gambinos or other families still have their Sicilian factions?

Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: carmela] #776293
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Originally Posted By: cheech
Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Biago Digiacomo was made in Sicily and Boston.



does he still own the restaurant?
Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Biago Digiacomo was made in Sicily and Boston.

Did he actually go through the ceremony again in boston or did they just recognize him as a made guy because he was made in sicily?
Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Biago Digiacomo was made in Sicily and Boston.

Did he actually go through the ceremony again in boston or did they just recognize him as a made guy because he was made in sicily?


If he was officially made in Boston, he would have dishonored himself in Sicily and would not be able to return there with the same status; he'd be renounced.


Yes he still owns the resturaunt.. He runs it with his sons
I beleive he was made in boston and in italy..Thats what I heard from reliable people and that was also a big thing when he came because the fact he came here to get involved while he was already made in italy was huge. I dont think he would be dishonored from sicily at all. He wouldnt be the first sicilian mobster made or get involved deeply in the states. you have, john gambino who was made before he came to states and cesare bonventre, and even philip buccola was said to be made in boston and palermo ...But as Biago go I am almost 100% positive he was made in both. Buccola never got outcasted in sicily after he returned In Fact he was somewhat an allaince between he two .. he is the one who sent Biago and Vito Deluca down here and a few more...All I need is to be that bug on the wall while it was going down be that sure from what I heard he was made in both country's

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raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: Joerusso] #776294
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Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Originally Posted By: cheech
Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Biago Digiacomo was made in Sicily and Boston.



does he still own the restaurant?
Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Biago Digiacomo was made in Sicily and Boston.

Did he actually go through the ceremony again in boston or did they just recognize him as a made guy because he was made in sicily?
Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Biago Digiacomo was made in Sicily and Boston.

Did he actually go through the ceremony again in boston or did they just recognize him as a made guy because he was made in sicily?


If he was officially made in Boston, he would have dishonored himself in Sicily and would not be able to return there with the same status; he'd be renounced.


Yes he still owns the resturaunt.. He runs it with his sons
I beleive he was made in boston and in italy..Thats what I heard from reliable people and that was also a big thing when he came because the fact he came here to get involved while he was already made in italy was huge. I dont think he would be dishonored from sicily at all. He wouldnt be the first sicilian mobster made or get involved deeply in the states. you have, john gambino who was made before he came to states and cesare bonventre, and even philip buccola was said to be made in boston and palermo ...But as Biago go I am almost 100% positive he was made in both. Buccola never got outcasted in sicily after he returned In Fact he was somewhat an allaince between he two .. he is the one who sent Biago and Vito Deluca down here and a few more...All I need is to be that bug on the wall while it was going down be that sure from what I heard he was made in both country's


John Gambino wasn't made in Italy, it was one of his brothers Rosario i believe. And Rosario was only made in Italy. I doubt Bonventre was either tbh, no idea about the rest though.

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Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: TheAustralian] #825921
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Here is one for the researchers . I do not know if this was a rumor or fact cos it was way back late 60's early mid 70's but Carmine Persico wanted his brother Allie made and there was a hold on new members.
Carmine was going to have Allie made in Boston, but said NO and either got the go ahead or just made his brother in the family.
Now it was a long time ago so ,and it could have been talk.
But this is possibly one here.


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Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: botz] #825922
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Originally Posted By: botz
Does the gambinos or other families still have their Sicilian factions?


Gambino Sicilian faction is really big and runs the family today. Bonanno's still have a Sicilian faction, most are in jail or inactive though.

Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: TheAustralian] #825923
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Camarel is right, JG wasn't made in italy, it was Sal.

Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: HairyKnuckles] #826034
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Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
Originally Posted By: TheMechanic
What was Gentile's status(family)? Was it Philadelphia?


Do you mean Nicola Gentile? He was made with the Philly Family, transfered to Kansas City and then Cleveland, if I remember correctly. He was the consigliere in the Cleveland Family before he transfered to be under Vincent Mangano in NY. So Gentile moved around a lot.


How is that even possible?

Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: TheAustralian] #826109
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You only go through a ceremony once. But transfers have been documented. Also, ceremonies in Sicily and the United States are pretty similar if not the same. Once you are inducted, you only need to be recognised overseas. At least that's my understanding.


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Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: cheech] #826118
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Cheech are you talking about Giacomos on hanover in the north end? I used to eat there all the time when I lived in Boston, friggin terrific food. anyone know if this guy owns that restaurant?


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Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: TheAustralian] #826126
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Mike no he is not the side of owner but he do a few others right outside of boston besides his namesake resturaunt in waltham..


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Can a made guy be in two families at once? [Re: Joerusso] #826148
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Joe I cant quite make out what you posted..is biaggio digiacomo the owner or connecte to Giacomo's in the north end at all?


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