Man I'm not gonna get into that shit storm again. Fosco maintained that because he hadn't participated in any killings, that he wasn't made. Which is borderline preposterous, because Marco was most certainly a hard ass back in the day, he was most definitely a tough guy. Maybe he never wanted to be and he answers to Pete DiFronzo, who we know For sure is made. Highly unlikely. Point is, he's about as high up in the organization as you can get and rubs shoulders regularly with guys like Inendino & DeLaurentis, the DiFronzos, etc, so it's pretty irrelevant.

Huh. OK.

Not sure if it's of interest to anyone, but I was able to figure out the old Survivor's Club on Taylor is where the China Night Cafe currently is at 1140 W. Taylor.

In "Everybody Pays" it's identified as Marco's club, and is where Aleman recruits Louie Almeda to go kill Billy Logan.

I'm sure that's the least of what transpired there.

Another interesting old spot: Mama Luna's, which is still open on West Fullerton. Very cool old school Chicago pizza joint. It's pretty run down these days. It's where Aleman murdered a bookie who refused to pay up named Anthony Reitinger in 1975.

The place looks virtually exactly the same... not remodeled. Pretty good pizza, too.

Not too many spots like that left.

Have you guys ever seen this photo? It was found in a back room during a search at the Rosebud Restaurant in 1988:

Made or not, he's one of the highest up guys. There's always been non-made guys who were high up. But I'd be shocked if he wasn't made.

And yeah Taylor St is not even close to how it used to be but there's still a couple "spots" left.

I remember seeing that photo once. Either here or on ANP.

Tocco ran Chicago Heights before he was even made. Sometimes I want to say that actually making someone in Chicago is less important than what your stature is. The ceremony could almost be looked at as a formality in some cases.

Excellent photo, snakes. Hadn't seen it. Alex Dana is one of the biggest clown motherfuckers in Chicago. If Joe Fosco was ultra wealthy & possessed a larger false sense of ego, he'd be Al Dana. They love the guy because he will literally do anything for them (literally anything) & expects absolutely nothing in return other than to be near them. Its pathetic.

Please, share more photos if you've got 'em.

Credit should go to Don Herion since it is from his book.

You recognize either of the two guys between DiFronzo and Marco?

It's no formality. It's no different here than NY. It means more here, if anything. Getting made here requires years of blood sweat & tears, and even then, it still may not be something that ever becomes a reality for the individual. In NY, they need manpower manpower manpower, and they're constantly Having to worry about rogues going against the grain, so it takes less to get made over There.

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Scott is a smart guy and I'm sure certain guys on these forums are a little buthurt Capeci wouldn't ask them

I just think the power structure has changed and a lot of the rackets the Spano's were running are controlled by different people now. I'm sure he also watched one of his own proteges - Mike Sarno - go down and said "fuck that."

Though who knows...

Good photo - where did you find that? That may be Joey Andriacchi next to DiFronzo -- though it almost looks like Frank Calabrese or Frank Milito. Really hard to tell.

Good guess, could very well be Andriacchi. I just assumed since Herion didn't label them that they were nobody big.

The guy to Marco's right could easily be Pete DiFronzo or some type of doppelganger for Joe Arnold.

Great photo snakes. It does look a little like andriacchi in the face.

Wonder what year that picture was taken. I know it was found in ''88 but looks older. Bananas looks young still.


Herion's book worth reading? And Ivy, yes I'm aware. Obviously Capeci utilized him as a guest columnist. Not sure what your point is.

He has always looked boyish and has aged really really well. Probably Early to mid 80s.

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I think you're right, Huron. There were a couple of other pictures with this one and the clothing and hair style looked about that period of time.

You should upload all of em!

They were just shots of the outside of Rosebud and a couple of waitresses on the inside. Nothing special and no Outfit guys in any of them.

Mike Caracci is the individual to the right of Johnny Bananas. Elmwood Park numbers guy

Did you show someone who knew that?

Is the other guy Fratto in the pic?

Funkster: yes

Friedravs: good eye! That's him, alright. Younger Rudy Fratto.

Is that really Rudy? Lol

I didn't think so, but he has that rat looking face so I think it is. Man he's a lot thinner now.

Snakes, is the book worth reading?

If you're talking about The Chicago Way, it is a joke. That pic is in there. I'm only on page 74 but it sucks. Can't even believe a proof reader and publisher put this out. Written by a 10 year old is how it reads to this point.

Yeah, that's what I figured. Probably written by Herion himself, who just isn't a writer lol.

It's so bad it will be hard to make it through. It's that bad. Normally I go through any book in a day or 2. I've been trying this for a week and am on pg 74.