Dino Marino has been around the Outfit since the 1980s and certainly isn't "new." I think the guys who are being speculated include the CFS Inc guys - a company Cicero controls - like Steve Panzarella and Louie Capizzi. Mark Montana is probably also in there...and their very own JoJo Corrozo is none other than Alex Salerno.

Panzarella is really a cash cow for Cicero...the more I read up about the guy's company the more it astounds me - check out the Global CFS Website:

In 2009, Global CFS contracted with the Customs and Border Protection Division of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security for the screening certification of air and ocean cargo arriving at the Port of Chicago. The company also is contracted with the Transportation Security Administration to screen cargo being transported on passenger aircraft departing from O’Hare. Stephen Panzarella is committed to public safety and to the integrity of the import cargo-inspection system.

Yeah "he's really committed to public safety and integrity" by partnering with guys like this:
http://www.lakelandtimes.com/main.asp?Se...ionID=9&S=1

You see this is the Outfit's bread and butter these Indian casinos. They got caught in San Diego and bilked these Indians in Wisconsin for $3M before being kicked out, but they do shit like this across the country in different states where their names aren't quite so familiar. They use guys like Steve Panzarella to control companies and be their "businessmen."

Yeah chitown, i meant newly made , not new to the outfit. Also i have heard of steve p but none of the rest ,thanx for the names. Do u have any info on them.

You'll Have to explain the corozzo/salerno comparison

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they're both in-house counsel to their moB father's organizations.

I think he means Solano though his son was a lawyer, he opened a few golf courses and has been mentioned here before.

His kid's name is Vince Jr. ChiTown must be referring to someone else?

My mistake, could he be Robert Salerno's kid then?

Duh, yep you're right that's who it is. As I recall, Alex Salerno defended Bobby in his trial.

I meant the kid - the lawyer in New York for the Gambinos whose father is a big wig and he is essentially the "family counsel." That's what Salerno is to the Outfit - even non Cicero guys use him.

And he crosses the line often - he was the face of that Loc Du Flambeau Indian Tribe Casino debacle in Wisconsin. This is a good read on the type of scams the Outfit has across the country - investing heavily in Indian - Run casinos and skimming:

http://lakelandtimes.com/print.asp?ArticleID=6359&SectionID=9&SubSectionID=9

I would think the Outfit's "bread and butter" is sports betting and video poker machines within Chicago and it's suburbs.

These Indian casino cases involving the Outfit are few are far between. The Rincon Indian casino case was over 20 years ago. There was the case in 2001 of the Menominee Indian tribe pulling out of a casino deal because one of it's investors had some loose mob ties. Then you have the Lac Du Flambeau tribal casino boat case. Those are the only ones I'm aware of.

That said, there have been other examples - the Grand Victoria riverboat casino, the Emerald Casino, and Excelsior casino down in Aruba - of the Outfit's involvement (or trying to get involved) in some legal casinos. But it's really a stretch to say they, let alone Indian casinos themselves, are the Outfit's bread and butter.

The last two Outfit related "busts" were loan sharking/extortion-related.

There isn't much big money in small time sports betting anymore. Nor with poker machines. There's still money & the Outfit still capitalizes, but those ventures are dying out.

The outfit's primary source of income these days is extortion/sharking, primarily obscure start up businesses & strip clubs/smut related establishments, with a fair amount of these endeavours taking place cross country, as was we saw in the Carparelli indictment. Bogus real estate scams & drug dealing are also probably a big source of income for them, and the usual stuff like fencing & small time burglary.

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Sports betting is not even close to dying. Still one of the main things. Especially in Chicago and the northeast. What makes you think that?

I think the reality is that guys just using Google aren't ever going to find anything out on the Outfit unless they know where to look and who to look for. If you didn't know the name Steve Panzarella, you wouldn't know about their scam in Wisconsin a few years ago or the fact a Cicero associate (or some speculate made guy) has a company whose contracted with Customs and DHS.

http://lakelandtimes.com/print.asp?ArticleID=6359&SectionID=9&SubSectionID=9

These guys constantly set up shell companies using names that no one knows (or the names of their kids i.e. Teresa Salerno - Bobby's sister and Alex Salerno's aunt - was named a founder of this shell scam company that bilked this tribe).

They have a lot of shit going on - you just need to know where to look. But hey, you don't gotta believe me

The reality is that the Outfit owns all the midwest manufacturing companies for poker machines. So they stand to make a lot of money by IL legalizing gambling and not having to hide things.

The sports books are also huge still - not to the extent they once were, but there are bookies all over Chicago sitting in bars taking action and kicking up to Tony Dote.

Bogus real estate and bid rigging are also huge. I'm not so sure many of these guys are into drugs anymore or street level shit - I would bet the guys on Grand Avenue and a few in Cicero will still dabble, but the real players today are guys like Panzarella or Chris Giuliano that own or operate legitimate businesses that already make good money. Pudgy's son just opened a major bar in Melrose Park that's actually a great place to hang out: Taverna on Division. The kid went to West Point and still comes back to Chicago and runs businesses with Outfit money.

There are very few real "street" gangsters left in Chicago - guys like Albie or Inendino or Bobby Pannozzo are the rarity in my opinion.

Sports betting is not something that is nearly as lucrative as it once was. How many 20-30 somethings do you know with gambling habits? Not very many, unless they come from gutter white trash cultures. And even then, most use vcash & go directly through the web these days. Betting through bookies is becoming a thing of the past, and for good reason. It's still popular amongst lower class types & immigrants who just don't know any better/don't want to open up credit cards/or have extremely poor credit, and amongst the old timers who are dying out anyways. Compared to what it once was, no, not even close.

http://mafiamembershipcharts.blogspot.it/search/label/Chicago

NAME ALIAS DATES RELAT ACTIVE POSIT VARIOUS

Bellavia-Robert Gasbeet 1939- 1980- Sol
Berretoni-Anthony Dago Tony 1931- 1970- Sol Chic, Hgts.
Calabrese-Nicholas Frank Snr.]B] 1980- Sol Talked 2000's
Carioscia-Michael 1933- 1980- Sol
Caruso-Frank Jnr. Toots 1945- ? 1990- Capo
Cataudella-Nicholas* 1959- Salvatore[?] 1990- Sol
Cataudella-Salvatore* 1952- Nicholas[?] 1990- Sol
Cecola-Salvatore 1945- 1980- Sol L.V.
Cimino-Virgil 1943- 1990- Sol
Culotta-Joseph Joe Kong 1990- Capo
Daddano-William Jnr.* 1935- William Snr.[F] 1990- Sol
D'Amico-Mario 1936- 1980- Capo
DeLaurentis-Salvatore Pizza Guy 1938- 1980- Capo
DeRosa-Frank 1943- Anthony[?] 1990- Sol
DiFronzo-Joseph 1934- Bros. 1980- Sol
DiFronzo-Peter 1933- Bros. 1980- Sol
Esposito-Anthony Sol
Filippino-Rocco Sol
Forliano-Thomas 1949- 1990- Sol
Fratto-John ? Sol Des Moines, Iowa
Gagliano-Gary 1943- Joseph[?]1990- Sol
Giannone-Anthony Sol
Guzzino-Richard 1939- Sam[B] 1980- Sol
Ignoffo-Roland 1949- 1990- Sol
Inendino-James Jimmy I 1941- 1990- Sol
LaValley-James* 1944- 1980- Sol
Lombardi-Joseph*Pretty Boy 1936- 1970- Sol
Lombardo-Rocco 1940- J.Lombardo[?] 1980- Sol L.V.
Magnifichi-Michael 1962- Capo
Malmento-MichaelMalmenato 1931- 1980- Sol
Manno-Pat Jnr. 1933- F+Uncles 1970- Sol
Marcello-James Jimmy the Man 1942- Sam[?] 1980- A/B
Marcello-Michael 1950- James[?] Capo
Martin-Gino* Blackie 1922- 1980- Sol
Matassa-John Jnr. Pudgy 1951- John Snr.[?] Capo
Panno-Frank 1933- 1980- Sol
Pascucci-Joseph Pooch 1932- 1980- Sol Talked 2000's
Rainone-John Mario 1952- 1990- Capo Talked
Rizzola-Rick Sol L.V.
Rosetti-Al Capo
Salerno-Robert 1935- 1980- Sol
Scalise-Donald 1938- 1980- Sol
Scalise-Joseph Jerry 1937- Sol
Scalise-Terry 1956- 1990- Sol
Spilotro-John Sol
Talerico-Joseph* 1955- Michael[?] 1990- Sol
Talerico-Michael 1952- A.LaPietra[U] 1990- Sol
Tominello-Raymond 1940- 1980- Sol
Vena-Albert 1948- 1990- Sol


It's about 49 made men

You are misinterpreting the list. These are individuals whom Bill thinks became members of the Outfit between 1980 and 2000. That is why DiFronzo and Lombardo are not listed. Several of those listed are dead, too.

Bill also doesn't relist people if they are on a previous list, so someone who is on a 1930s list won't be on a 1950s list even though he's still around.

This is the first I've heard of him...who is he? Mob watcher?

I assume you're talking about the Carpelli case, which came down in two indictments. As far as I can tell, these involved extortion methods to collect legitimate business debts. I'm not sure "loansharking" is mentioned anywhere. And, if you look back over the past 10-15 years of Outfit cases (much better than just going with the last two), you'll see that those involving loansharking are few and far between.



For the record, the CFS Inc. thing was new to me but I was familiar with Panzarella, Salerno and the rest because of the lac du flambeau case. That's old news. Anyway, feel free to give more examples of the Outfit infiltrating Indian casinos for their bread and butter. I just don't think there are any.

Was actually referring to Mandel & the Grand Avenue guys trying to muscle Tony "Q" Quaranta & the Polekatz people, as well as the Carparelli indictment(s).

The stuff you're referring to happened years & years ago. These two were recent & pretty serious. The Carparelli crew situation in particular was fairly extensive & spanned multiple states.

All the busts for the last 15 years or longer are penny ante nickel and dime bulls$it, and that's likely all we will ever see again.

@ivyleague


i remember you talking about the carapelli indictment wasn't mob related

now you know the ins and outs about the whole situation

Yes,Snake I made a misteke,because there are 2 list: 1950s to 1980s
and 1980s-2000s,I'll see if in the list there are men that died in 2014,but in the charts there also people dead until 2013,so I think that the charts are well done,if I make another mistake,tell me the name of the made men died; here is the list from the second chart 1950s-1980s:

Ammeratto-George Ammirati 1917- Vincenzo[B] 1940-70's Sol Chic. Hgts.
Andriacci-Joseph The Builder 1932- J.Lombardo[C] 1970- Capo
Aurielli-Frank 1920- Sol
Begenie-Phillip Sol Las Vegas
Bruscato-Frank* 1928- 1960- Sol
Catizone-Anthony* 1927- 1960- Sol
Cordavano-Joseph James[B] Sol
DiCaro-Charles Charlie Specs 1912- Joseph[B] 1950- Sol
DiFronzo-John No Nose 1928- Peter[B] 1960- Boss
DiPietto-Americo Peter 1914- 1950- Sol
Gallo-Salvatore Sam 1912- 1950- Sol
Granito-Anthony* The Head 1929- 1960- Sol
Grieco-Joseph Joe Emery 1927- Bros. 1960- Sol
Lombardo-Joseph The Clown 1929- J.Andriacci[C] 1960- Boss
Marino-Louis 1933- 1970- Capo
Pitello-Anthony Tony Orlando Sol
Tornabene-Anthony* 1918- Bros. 1960- Sol
Tourine-Charles Jnr. Charles DelMonico 1927- Charles[F] NYC 1960- Sol

I don't believe I ever said anything of the kind, troll. Maybe you could put the reefer down, do a search, and show me where I said that? No? Didn't think so.

Jonnynonos was the one That implied that. Not ivy.

Do you really think that matters to Cook County?