Originally Posted By: klydon1
If "our major concern" in this matter should be the U.S. Constitution, please show me an article and section, or amendment that permits the government's indefinite detention of a person without indictment or formal charges, without a right to counsel, without a trial, and without due process.

Clearly the Constitution is of no concern here. If it were applicable, these guys would have to have been released more than a decade ago. In fact the government in 2000 bent over backwards to argue specifically that the honored protections and liberties do not extend here and should therefore be ignored.

And there are obvious reasons why we can not disregard the Geneva Convention or international treaties and law. As we have been the most militaristically engaged nation in the world since the 20th century, we have had, have and likely will have the largest number of armed personnel across the globe. Failure to abide by the convention or international law is an invitation for nations around the world to do the same.


Like most liberals, you are approaching the war on terror as a police action, i.e. prosecute them and put them in prison. These terrorists are in a grey area where neither prisoner of war, in the traditional sense, or criminal prosecution fully applies. Every last prisoner in Guantanamo should have been brought before military tribunals and then executed years ago.

And, no, letting 5 terrorists go free so we could save the skin of a guy who walked away and all but joined the enemy was a stupid thing to do. But I wouldn't expect you to call Obama's screw up for what it is. You've always been quick to defend your guy.

Originally Posted By: Lilo
There you go again raising logical legal arguments and making sense. A casual observer might even think that you've studied law or practiced law... rolleyes whistle


Oh please. Klydon comes here every day acts like he's all about the law and here to explain it to us mere mortals. And many of you, who are of the same liberal persuasion, are only to happy to buy what he's selling. But the reality is, he starts from his own personal liberal leanings and then - like any lawyer - twists the law to suit his agenda. You may be impressed with his legalese mumbo jumbo but I'm not. The guy's full of it.

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