Who in your opinion would be the most loyal mobster of all time ?? There r a few that spring to mind like dominik napolitano and johnny keys Simone but who would be your choice ??

Very difficult question. It's also very subjective. But in my opinion, you almost have to give it to a guy who never really advanced past soldier, yet stayed loyal til the end. Because it's a lot easier to stay loyal when you're a millionaire by thirty and a skipper by forty, than it is if you're seventy years old and still on a half-sheet (and trust me, such unfortunates do exist).

And while there are too many of those guys to list, I'll throw out Chinky Facchiano as the example, because most of you guys have heard of him. The guy did half-a-dozen bids, never talked, never really got rich, yet he was a gangster til the day they closed the lid on him.

But like I said, he's just a well known example. There are others like him. That's my two cents, anyway .

I say Benjamin 'Lefty' Ruggiero because after the whole Donnie Brasco thing he could if 'flipped' ( I wouldn't of blamed him ), but he did his time like a man.

Joseph Valachi.

Wot about john pappa he committed 4 murders for the colombos and was jailed for life without parole at 24 and was just an associate , that's a stand up guy

Gene gotti got hit hard wasn't allowed to plea out and missed out on the prime years of his life, thanks to his brother.

Vinny Basciano -from what I've read- was loyal with the capital "L". It was almost painful to see Massino rat him out.

Neil Dellacroce in my opinion.

Very loyal, they had him on tape offering to do "work" when the guy was 90 years old, Joe Zito told him to retire and enjoy the rest of his life and his reply was you're never retired, Thomas Cafaro was on tape saying he's a mean old man who thought he should be boss but that he was also a very active and loyal guy. Great example PB, another guy who I would consider is Daniel Cilenti, and Wille Messino outta Chicago. I know he wasnt made but what about Persico's guy Hugh Apples.

An interesting subject. Some of these guys I've never heard of but the others mentioned seem to be the ones who, from my reading, just loved being a gangster. Pappa also seemed to love it, but being so young (24) doesn't have a long enough of a history to determine how loyal he would have remained over the long hall.

I think only one murder was for the Colombos. The rest were personal

Exactly.

He was basically still a kid and wasn't around long enough to know very much. It's not like he could have given any direct testimony about the Colombo administration. So he was never really put to the test. If he knew something about, say, Allie Boy, and the Feds said "you talk, and you walk," and he took the lifetime bid anyway, then you could mention him in the same breath as some of the others mentioned here. But there's really no way of knowing.

Now, he may have stood up anyway. I'm just pointing out that he really didn't have much to trade for his freedom.

Who was it that Pappa supposdley caught his balls off?

Guys like this. Auricchio was married with two small kids when he went away. After he was charged with DiGilio's murder he refused to cooperate or implicate anyone in any of the charges including murder, that he pled guilty to. I believe he was recently released.

http://articles.philly.com/1994-06-11/ne...tencing-hearing

Auricchio is still a relatively young man, 55 or 56 (well, not that young, but he's my age ), and he never did get his button back then. And that served him well because he seems to have walked away from the life without any expectation or obligation .

He's a good example of what I was talking about. A guy who wasn't even made, didn't make much money, and he did the twenty years anyway. It's easy to say that millionaire capos were loyal, but their financial rewards weigh in heavily on that decision.

Was Hugh Apples Irish or Scottish? I read he was Irish-American but McIntosh is a Scottish surname.

Frankie Loc deserves a mention. Joe Piney too.

Agreed on both.

Neil Migliore has to be in there.

Joe (Black) Gorgone , went to John Gotti's Funeral when everyone was told to stay away. Even Casso said in the book "The Brotherhood " that he could never be as loyal to LCN as Joe Black is.

Old man Paruta comes to mind...

I'd go with guys like Al Facciano, who was made for over a century or so, and never got any higher. Was loyal till the end.

Neil Migliore is another that comes to mind, Amuso wanted him dead and almost succeded. Didn't sway Old Neil away from the Lucchese's, though.

Joe Arcuri, Guy served under 6 Bosses. Mangano, Anastasia, Gambino, Castellano and Gotti. He was loyal till the end.

Anthony Indelicato, did a good bit of time and could have gave the Feds plenty of information on top guys, even the guys who whacked "Whack-Whack's" dad. Just one of many though.

Chinky's the first guy I mentioned.

Matty Madonna, did a lot of time when he was young before he was made, has two indictments now and still as active as ever, he is a true loyal Gangster

The guy's still kicking it for his age. He's loyal and given the civil war in their family back then he remains a figurehead that a lot of the younger guys look up too

Great choice , old man joe paruta was as loyal as they come . I would love to c a pic of him

Anthony Indelicato.

Great choice.

He served for 25yrs under THE guy who whacked his dad.

THEN, when that guy ROLLS, the freakin HEAD of the family, and Bruno gets done for murder. He STILL eats his time.

Let's say that again. He SERVED the guy who killed his dad. For 25yrs.
The guy who KILLED his dad, THEN FLIPS. Bruno still doesn't roll.
Bruno then gets done for MURDER.
And as an old man, takes his pintch.

That. Is serious gangster sh*t.

Yeah you're absolutely right that is some real gangster stuff that man is most definately loyal Cosa Nostra through and through.

Dominick Napolitano and Benjamin Ruggiero:sentenced to death for the affair Pistone sonny black was killed, and Lefty was saved only because he was arrested by the FBI.

Giacomo "Fat Jack" Dinorscio:,sentenced in the mid-80s, for drug trafficking to 30 years, and later indicted in the famous 21-month trial,I'm note sure if is was a made man ora simple associate,but although many in his place would flip, he did not do it,and died in 2003 after get out jail after almost 18 years.

Anthony "Bruno" Indelicato:born 1947,in 1986 was sentenced to 40 years.
In 1998, Indelicato was released from prison. Although wanted dead at one point, Indelicato went back to work for the Bonannos, operating his father's old crew and becoming one of the Bonanno family's biggest earners. During this period, he briefly returned to prison for violating parole by meeting with Bonanno mobsters.n 2001, Indelicato participated in the murder of Bonanno associate Frank Santoro who had threatened to kidnap one of the sons of then Bonanno capo, Vincent "Vinny Gorgeous" Basciano, a close friend of Indelicato's. Santoro was shot to death while walking his dog in the Bronx.Indelicato served as a driver. In 2007, Basciano was convicted of the murder. In February 2006, Indelicato was charged with murder and racketeering for the 2001 Santoro murder.In August 2008, Indelicato pleaded guilty to lesser charges and on December 16, 2008, was sentenced to 20 years in federal prison. As of March 2012, Indelicato is imprisoned at the Fairton Federal Correctional Institution (FCI) in New Jersey. His projected release date is September 9, 2023, when he would be 76 years old