was that on second or third ave,,i to knock the rust off, greg would call tony uncle tony..kissing ass maybe to get the spot when tony died..tony was a great old timer

craig should never have been made..craig was put in jr gottis crew another huge mistake by baby huey..

I'm always helping you knock the rust off lol.

But Louie's club? 115th between Pleasant and First. Opposite the 115th side of the Church. The building with the good sized parking lot on the side. I think there's a florist there now, but I haven't been over there in a little while. Not since my old man got layed up with the hernia. The old coot is still on the Giglio, so we still get down there every so often.

Thats what Falcone said in his book. He also said that gregs wife blamed him for making him. Falcone also said he felt bad fo Craig and how much he was suffering.

did louie move the club, ? i remember it between 116 and 115 on an ave ?get your hammer hit the rust off me one more time.. i think I'm getting sometimers..

He wasn't cut out for the life, plain and simple. And if they were gonna stick him in a young guy's crew they should have given him to Tore.

Craig got his button right after the last pinch. Tore was already acting for Frank. Tore would have looked out for him a little more. But it probably wouldn't have made a difference. I've said it a hundred times. You can't develop a true gangster mentality when you grow up wanting for nothing in suburbia.

Tore grew up in Eastchester, too. But he was an exception to the rule. Smart guy. Tough guy. Stand up guy.

he was also half jewish..if you hear the tapes of him speaking to his dad and the jews from scores..you will see he is just a kid .

You're thinking of Tony Baker's club on First. Right by Andy's Colonial Tavern.

correct! putting a few pieces together.lol

greg and craig undermined tore..but screwed everything thing up doing so and sent everyone to prison.......

Of course. I wasn't going to post that but in hindsight I'm glad you did. If they gave Craig to Tore from the jump that never would have happened. But then again, it was probably all done by design anyway. Divide and conquer and all that paranoid bullshit. Yeah, that worked out well for everyone .

before he wanted to kill him lol..all nicks $ he still needed to deal H..fool

And I mean this respectfully because I love the Jews. But Terry DePalma is as Jewish as a bagel on the lower east side. I mean, like, overtly, over-the-top Jewish.

Craig had the spot on Boston and Conner first. Years ago it was the Pine Tree (not to be confused with the Pine Tavern on Bronxdale). Greg bled the owner there for years. He eventually grabbed it for Craig and his friends and converted it into a topless joint. First it was Pretty Woman, then I think Mirage or something like that. But Greg was in there all day long. This was when he was still on good terms with Nicky Buick from Gun Hill. He was in there quite a bit, too.

I think I double posted. Oh well.

greg and craig had jr bullshitted, which wasn't hard. lol.. greed took over and changed everyone of them's world..

hey sometimes we need to hear things twice..

You're right. And let's be honest, Nicky never even needed his button. Car lots. Property. The whole nine yards. But that's a whole other story. The guy was well off long before he hooked up with Greg.

right...they almost made fusaro..what a disaster that would have been that crew would have made him and falcone or jack garcia.... how did anyone talk to guys in that crew..poor judgement is an understatement

Did Athur Leo have a club or something in EH?

That nicky prison contract sting by the feds was a classic. Greg came out unscathed on that. Classic.

You know he had half of Stamford bullshitted into believing that he was made. And that's a no-no. Bald headed rat fuck. But he was very close to Nicky. The used to eat together every Saturday night at the Iranian's up in Greenwich.

The Feds actually listed him as a made guy by accident and he ran with it. It's one of the few times they corrected themselves. Because when he flipped he couldn't very well testify that he was a soldier when he wasn't. He got away with that line of bullshit because people up there are a little more naive and because Tony Megale was away at the time.

The gullibility of some people never ceases to amaze me, though .

beat it at trial..

true..are you talking about val bella ?

I thought Val Bellas was Albanian no?

Yeah. When they first opened it was Ciao Bella. But Dave got sued and had to change the name.


No, you're thinking of their chef who got whacked and cut up. He was Albanian. But Dave's an Iranian Jew. He started out with Edmondo's and Ciao off Route 22 in Eastchester.

that is correct!.and the man wins a cigar, LOL..dave also had a restaurant i think in eastchester? he had great food , hang out for regis, nicole sheridan and that ponytail voice.. fireplaces, he then built that great wine room downstairs..

Eh, I get lucky sometimes.


Yeah, I just mentioned that, Bronx. He had Edmondo's first, which is another Italian place now. He has nothing to do with it. But Ciao is still there. Pizza and pasta. Right behind Pinocchio's (which recently closed up after years and years). He also opened another steak house by Lord and Taylor fairly recently.

Dave's a born charmer, though. Especially with the women. He can take the fattest and ugliest broad and make her feel like she's the most beautiful woman in the place. That's half the battle in a high end joint. And Dave's ugly as sin himself, but that's neither here nor there .

lol

Michael Bolton. There's a story there, but I'm getting tired of typing lol. Short version: I heard he literally begged to get that table named after him.

Sorry guys for interapting but Arthur leo club east harlem?