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Re: World Cup 2014
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This is FIFA's announced shortlist for the Golden Ball. Argentina - Angel Di Maria, Javier Mascherano and Lionel Messi. Germany - Mats Hummels, Toni Kroos, Phillip Lahm and Thomas Muller. Columbia - James. Brazil - Neymar. Holland - Robben. Toni Kroos or Lionel Messi for me so far, i hope yet doubt James will get at least the Bronze. Also the former winners. 1930 - Jose Nasazzi (Uruguay) 1934 - Giuseppe Meazza (Italy) 1938 - Leonidas (Brazil) 1950 - Zizinho (Brazil) 1954 - Ferenc Puskas (Hungary) 1958 - Didi (Brazil) 1962 - Garrincha (Brazil) 1966 - Bobby Charlton (England) 1970 - Pele (Brazil) 1974 - Johan Cruyff (Netherlands) 1978 - Mario Kempes (Argentina) 1982 - Paolo Rossi (Italy) 1986 - Diego Maradona (Argentina) 1990 - Salvatore Schillaci (Italy) 1994 - Romario (Brazil) 1998 - Ronaldo (Brazil) 2002 - Oliver Kahn (Germany) 2006 - Zinedine Zidane (France) 2010 - Diego Forlan (Uruguay) The only previous winner of the ones i've seen that i disagree with is Zidane in 2006. He was great and deserved Silver imo, but he was bad against Switzerland and average against South Korea and missed the Togo game through suspension. He was amazing in the knockout stage but i still feel FIFA were compensating for snubbing him in 98 and also because he was retiring. Cannavaro was great in every game for Italy and deserved the award imo. I also feel Iniesta deserved at least the Bronze in 2010. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28274011
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Re: World Cup 2014
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07/12/14 02:02 PM
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Messi was good in the group stages but has not done much in the knock out stages in my opinion. I think the award should go to one from Kroos, Muller or Rodríguez. I'm also not sure why Neymar is on the list..
To be honest i agree with you on Messi, but i didn't wan't to just name a load of German players  . James was my favourite of the tournament but there's no chance he'll get even the Bronze ball, he'd be the first Quarterfinalist in a 32 team tournament too if he did. While Muller has been great i'd probably have Lahm and Neuer ahead of him as well as Messi who has done more for his team as a whole imo. Neuer has obviously not been shortlisted because he'll win the Golden Gloves award, but i think his aforementioned sweeper contributions have been ignored. Neymar deserved his inclusion imo at least. He was the only presence Brazil had in attack for their first 5 games, seeing him limping into the tunnel in his full kit made me feel horrible for him. I don't think he deserves any awards, but i do think he was one of the top 10 players of the tournament. The award i'm wondering about is the young player award. I can't think of anyone who's under 21 that's featured prominently enough to deserve it, like Muller in 2010 and Podolski 4 years ealier. Am i forgetting someone?
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Re: World Cup 2014
[Re: Camarel]
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07/12/14 02:08 PM
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Messi was good in the group stages but has not done much in the knock out stages in my opinion. I think the award should go to one from Kroos, Muller or Rodríguez. I'm also not sure why Neymar is on the list..
To be honest i agree with you on Messi, but i didn't wan't to just name a load of German players  . James was my favourite of the tournament but there's no chance he'll get even the Bronze ball, he'd be the first Quarterfinalist in a 32 team tournament too if he did. While Muller has been great i'd probably have Lahm and Neuer ahead of him as well as Messi who has done more for his team as a whole imo. Neuer has obviously not been shortlisted because he'll win the Golden Gloves award, but i think his aforementioned sweeper contributions have been ignored. Neymar deserved his inclusion imo at least. He was the only presence Brazil had in attack for their first 5 games, seeing him limping into the tunnel in his full kit made me feel horrible for him. I don't think he deserves any awards, but i do think he was one of the top 10 players of the tournament. The award i'm wondering about is the young player award. I can't think of anyone who's under 21 that's featured prominently enough to deserve it, like Muller in 2010 and Podolski 4 years ealier. Am i forgetting someone? Off the top of my head i can only think of Paul Pogba for France but he's over 21 i believe .
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