According to the US Marshall who escorted Gotti during his court trial, john gotti sr was put into solitary confinement for a fight at MCC

Anyone know who he fought with? No idea if it's true because Gotti was worshipped seeing it was in NY plus he had sammy frankie around and various guys so doesn't make sense Gotti would personally get into a fist fight

http://nypost.com/2014/05/18/us-marshal-who-guarded-john-gotti-tells-all/

The one where he was beat down in Marion, fair enough. He had zero guys around and was all alone etc

Are you referring to this incident? Not familiar with any other incident specially at MCC. I'm sure the Post and News would have beeen all over that.

Witness: Supremacists plotted to avenge Gotti
Leadership of Aryan Brotherhood gang accused of dozens of prison killings
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This undated photo released by the court shows mob boss John Gotti Sr. after he was involved in a fight while in federal prison in Illinois in the late 1990s. The photo was presented as evidence by the prosecution at the start of the Aryan Brotherhood trial on Friday in Santa Ana, Calif.

updated 4/14/2006 9:43:03 PM ET
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SANTA ANA, Calif. — A former member of a white supremacist prison gang testified Friday that he was slipped two bullets and ordered by an alleged gang kingpin to hide them until they could be used to kill a black inmate who had assaulted the late mob leader John Gotti.
Kevin Roach took the stand for a second day to testify in one of the largest capital punishment cases in U.S. history, aimed at the leadership of the Aryan Brotherhood gang.
Roach said another inmate slipped him one bullet by pushing it under the door of a prison library. The inmate, also a brotherhood member, told him that alleged gang leader Barry "The Baron" Mills would soon contact him and tell him about a planned hit on Walter Johnson, an inmate who had punched Gotti in the eye.
At the time, Gotti was in prison in Marion, Ill., while Mills and Roach were imprisoned in Florence, Colo.
Gotti had in the past paid the Aryan Brotherhood to protect him in prison, Roach testified. Mills ordered gang members to stop protecting Gotti in 1994 because the mob leader hadn't followed through on a promise to help Mills find an attorney to appeal a decades-old murder conviction, Roach said.
But in 1997, Gotti allegedly offered to pay to have Johnson killed, and Mills agreed to take the offer. Roach didn't specify how much Gotti offered to pay, but in previous testimony another former gang member said Gotti had offered $500,000.
Mills "told us that he wanted us to accept the contract and he wanted me to send word to all the brothers because John Gotti was willing to pay a good sum," Roach testified. "He wanted to show that the Aryan Brotherhood could get anyone, anywhere and ... that shooting someone in a maximum security prison would make an impact on the prison population."
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Hit never carried out
The gang never was able to carry out the hit on Johnson, Roach said. Gotti died in prison in 2002.
Roach, who is serving two life sentences for murder, left the gang and became a government witness in 1998. He is in the witness protection program.
Roach also testified about a violent campaign against the DC Blacks, a black prison gang, that he said began after the DC Blacks placed a hit on two Aryan Brotherhood members.
The alleged race war — and the deaths of two black inmates that resulted from it — are at the center of the government's case against two of the defendants now on trial. The government alleges that Mills and another gang leader, T.D. "The Hulk" Bingham, ordered the attack on the black inmates and mobilized brotherhood members for a gang war.
Roach's testimony has also tied the defendants to many of the 32 murders and attempted murders detailed in an indictment targeting the white supremacist gang, founded in 1964 at California's San Quentin prison.
As many as 16 could get death
Prosecutors hope to dismantle the gang in a series of racketeering trials. Of 40 men initially charged, as many as 16 could face the death penalty for crimes going back 30 years.
The first group of four defendants — Mills, Bingham, Edgar "The Snail" Hevle and Christopher Gibson — is on trial in Santa Ana. All have pleaded not guilty. The rest are to be tried beginning in October.
Mills, already serving two life terms for a 1979 murder, could face the death penalty in the 1997 killings of two inmates in a Pennsylvania prison. Bingham, 58, also could be executed for the 1997 inmate killings. He is serving time on robbery and drug charges.
Hevle, 54, and Gibson, 46, could face life in prison.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/12321039/ns/us...i/#.U8MZmCjDPww

Never heard of John Sr getting into a fight in MCC. I did hear about the incident in Florence Co that the other fellow mentioned. MCC has a SHU special housing unit "The Hole" on 9South in this unit they have another group of cells for inmates considered high security risk. Basically they were made to house the sheik from the first world trade center bombing. They have glass walls and door and are monitored 24/7. John was placed in here as a security risk. Which compared to the other cells in MCC he was lucky. Hope this helps

Whenever I hear these anecdotes by former wiseguys, or in this case, federal marshals, I'm always doubting any of it. A lot of these wiseguys after getting caught always want to make a few bucks by throwing the Gotti name around in the papers, its getting old now. To be fair, this guy might be different.

The MCC is a horrible place. People hear Federal and they think country club, and in some cases that's true. But the MCC and MDC are basically for cases that are pending. And because of that, you get the worst of the worst housed with even the most non-violent white collar types.

Thanks for clearing that up. Perhaps the US Marshall assumed gotti was in the "shoe/hole" due to a fight but like someone has said he was placed there as high risk.

As bad as this place was, gravano says they had it locked down!

Well, Gravano said a lot of things .

heres a story on the MDC from seth ferranti. http://www.gorillaconvict.com/2011/10/mdc-brooklyn-2/

There's a friend of mine who has a relative that used to work in Marion. He was in direct contact with Gotti almost daily and said he has tons of stories. Nothing outrageous from what I understand, just neat anecdotes. Only time I saw him was at a football game tailgate so I figure he's there to have fun and not have me pick his brain for 30 minutes. Maybe next time I can pry some of those stories out of him.

jeff fort was the only person sent to colordo because gotti didn't know about illinois

the aryans probably knew it was gonna happen before it happened to him

all the mobs probablly knew gotti was getting his ass beat that day

gotti didn't know blacks in chicago ain't going for that shit

Really? Some black guy beats up a defeated 50 something year old guy and now every black guy in Chicago is a bad ass? No doubt in my mind the day before the same "blacks" were shinning that Mutts shoes and kissing his ass, then he gets beat up and they all jump to the other side if the fence just like they always do!

the guy that ordered gotti's beating was a defeated 50 year old

if gotti is tough enough to talk that shit at 50, then he's tough enough to fight

illinois blacks wouldn't honor any of those "stand your grand laws"

No doubt put up or shut up, however like I said the same homies of yours I guarantee were shinning his shoes the day before.

Is your boy Obama one of those Illinois blacks that don't be honoring no "stand your ground law"

the blacks were kissing their own bosses ass u fucking genius

the blacks always kissed the italians asses and wanted to be like them

just look at half of the rappers names

theres like 5 named some form of gotti alone lmao

blacks in chicago were kinda sorta trying to overthrow the fucking government

they weren't sitting around thinking about italians

the blacks were kissing their own bosses ass u fucking dumbass

They ain't orginized enough to have a boss, ok you win I'm the dumbass. Since you know so much about prison I have just one question. How does this boss keep track of all the guys under him? Shit prisons are like 80% black? Why is that?

WOW! Seriously, read you Chicago history, research a guy named Teddy Roe, see what he be thinking about them Eye Talians

lol.i got to admit, i do admire your consistency whenever gottis time in prison is brought up on here.

Anything to get back at the white man.

Also i find it funny how some of you felt the need to come on here and defend gotti, a dead career criminal who you most likely didn't know personally and did nothing for you in your lives, yet you felt the need to defend his honour from some random guy on the internet.

Well, this thread's about done for. And if I do say so myself, as soon as I saw the title I knew it would be trouble .

yeah, this topic never ends good

And that's why I didn't opine (thee dollar word there ).

Nothing Gotti ever involved with did end good for anybody, to al excuse me for my lapse in class. Bad judgement on my part.

Can't we all get along?

Not your fault, buddy. He brings out the worst in everyone.

Did he register on an OC forum, where this section is 98 percent italian organize crime...to berate italians and praise black gangs?

seems a bit counter productive to me

To be fair (not to him, he's an idiot), NO criminal organization should be praised.

But I get what you're saying .

My thing is, who really cares what he says? It would be one thing if people listened to what he said and believed him... but they don't. So why bother arguing with him? I got nothing against him and just ignore his posts if I don't like them - I don't waste posts and ruin threads by arguing with him or any other "bad" poster.