Lol. Hilarious. Business as usual over there.

I saw panozzo getting into a shouting match with one of the younger c-notes kinda near Fiore's deli a few weeks ago.

Lombardo aligned his crew with the C-Notes a long time ago, that gang was & still is somewhat of a farm team for the Grand Avenue Crew.

My question is what the fuck were they doing down in Hegewisch of all places...? Perhaps that's where they cut up the loot?

Interesting that they were busting out drug houses. Sounds like Cook County took the lead on this.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/07/19/five-members-of-p-k-street-crew-charged-under-state-rico-law/

^^theres photos of all 5 defendants in that article. These guys all came up under guys like Albie Vena & Tony Spilotro around the Grand & Hoyne area. They were C-Notes that were recruited by the Grand Avenue Crew in the 70s.

The corner of Ohio & Leavitt is C-Note territory, that's basically where they began. Joey Lombardo's corner

http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/28746...ml#.U8qjFlZR6Jw

^thats by far the most comprehensive piece yet on the situation. It gives a good idea of what the Grand Avenue Crew's bread & butter is on the street level these days. Far more quaint & hand-to-mouth than 30/40 years ago, but still formidable.

Bobby Panozzo is a real fucking lunatic.

@huronsocial


i know for a fact that he wanted to beat the dog shit outta the younger c-note

the shorties are worthless and hegewisch is a perfect spot to lay low

Basically the young C-Notes with access to street level drug dealers will alert the Outfit guys when they find out about stash houses, usually belonging to Hispanic gangs. The Outfit guys will pose as cops & simulate a raid.

Okay so Hegewisch isn't where they were hiding out, they were attempting to rob a stash house located there of 44 kilos of cocaine & the feds & locals were waiting for them in the house.

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they thought they were about to hit a lick

that's a fucked up set up

that's the 2nd set of violent criminals arrested connected to the defunct grand ave crew

Cnotes still Italian with a spattering of Latinos?

Correct. Polish as well, some Ukrainian kids from the neighborhood naturally.

The c-notes war pretty heavily with the Latin Kings west of California and the Satan Disciples east of Damen, so most Latinos in the area will get jumped in with them.

i guess thats the problem if your making a living robbing drug houses, eventually your gonna get stung. Are they gonna be held in cook county, since its a state case be interesting to see if anyone tries to get revenge on them for the robberies.

I found this story referencing the c notes from 2011. They were beefing with the satins disciples.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/54390...ml#.U8sONRZ8yf0

Joe Lopez sure likes defending Outfit guys.

They definitely need to be wary of retaliation. I'm going to go ahead & assume that the cartels they were robbing were Latin King operated, and now the veil has obviously been lifted.

The way these guys get away with this stuff is because local law enforcement turns a blind eye in many cases, and obviously through aldermanic sway & bribery.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-prosecutors-outfit-street-crew-posed-as-cops-to-rob-drug-stash-houses-20140719,0,5541699.story

^^an even MORE in depth article (Thanks a lot, Chicago news publications -___- why can't you guys just gun down all birds with one damn article)

And yes, this is by far the biggest Outfit bust in a long, long time. Although the Carparelli Crew indictment may be bigger in the long run, they lost that case & wont release specific details until they've got them cornered, like this recent Grand Avenue crew situation. But the Grand Avenue Crew is obviously making a comeback under Albie Vena & incorporating some younger soldiers, and are 100% still capable of serious violence & intimidation. They were robbing big shot Latino cartel bosses, posing as vice cops, without fear of repercussions. 6 times a year. As well as engaging in a variety of armed robberies, mansion break ins, bribing officials, prostitution rings, and, as was evident in the Mandell trial, they were obviously looking into doing some strip club strong arming/street taxing. These guys are the real deal. And this is just one small street crew, and an extension of the smallest & most quaint/modest of the remaining four Outfit crews. So you do the math. Oh, and not one gambling charge. Lol.

Of course the clowns on here that only believe what the FBI reports will scoff at this. I could've told you some of this shit was going on with the Patch guys. Can you imagine the responses I would've gotten on here? LOL theArm actually did drop hints to some of this shit & he was berated & driven out like a leper with aids. durkadurka

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Looks like two of the other members of the crew,Louis Capuzi and Frank Obrochta, are already in jail facing burglary charges. Looks like they were pretty diversified, doing home invasions, armed robberies, burglary, insurance scams, and prostitution.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/30/state-employee-was-member-of-burglary-ring-authorities-say/ Article about Capuzi and Obrochta arrests with mugshots.

Watched the video on the page and looks like Obrochta was out on bond in cook county for murder during a home invasion. Looks like this little crew is pretty vicious.

Looks like Obrochta and Franko Martinelli were both shot by a 79 yr old man and Franko died. They say it was during a home invasion, but it seems weird that Obrochta and Martinelli were banging on the front door if it was a home invasion. http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/2010/09/ukrainian-village-shooting-on-2100-west.html http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-...y-robert-berlin

It was not a home invasion. I remember this happening. They got into a bar fight at a place called Stella's (on Western & Erie in The Patch/Ukrainian Village) with the 79 year old man's son (last name Barker) earlier that afternoon & went looking for him at his fathers house in the Patch. The kid is the one who shot them while they were grilling the old man about where his kid was. They weren't aware the kid was in the other room. Chicago news reports are so vague, shoddy, & biased.

Capuzi is a Grand Avenue Crew member with Panozzo & Koroluk. Obrachta is a half Italian pole who I believe is a member of the crew as well (I've seen him riding around with Panozzo around the neighborhood in the past). Franko Martinelli is pretty well known around the Patch as a C-Note & Grand Avenue prospect, but other than that I don't know a whole lot about him. I used to see him loitering outside Fiores Deli near Joey Lombardos wife's apartment with Panozzos kid, Who is also a C-Note.

Fosco's new post claims that Andriacchi has taken over for Difronzo.

The interesting thing to me is the potential fallout. Drug laws have changed a lot but I imagine if they can really prove he stole 25 keys, in addition to everything else, he will effectively be looking at as much time as they want to throw at him.

If there are Ukrainian gangsters in Ukrainian Village they are truly the last of the Mohicans. The city pegged the number at 2500 left total about 25 years ago and a Ukrainian I was talking to (online) not long ago who lives there with her family pegged the current number at about 200.

BTW, everyone here is talking about what the FBI just released. And as far as I know the FBI never denied the existence of the Grand Avenue crew; quite the contrary.

So I don't see anything inconsistent at all about the FBIs reporting; in fact, quite they seem to be doing their job quite effectively.

Also blatantly implies that Albie Vena is, in addition to being boss of the Grand Avenue Crew, a top figure within the C-Note$.

Fosco is crazy but has some balls on him.

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No one said Ukrainian gangsters. I said a few Ukrainian kids (some Polish) who grew up in the area are C-Notes. Were talking maybe 4% of the gang, Maybe 7-8 guys with Eastern euro blood. The C-Note$ are still largely Italian.

He's more or less implying that the Ohio & Leavitt C-Note$ & the Chicago Mafia's Grand Avenue Crew are loosely one in the same. Kids cut their teeth as C-Notes only to be later weeded out & the cream of the crop jumped into the Outfit.

What is surprising about that is that the remaining Italians are street enough to support a street gang.

The area around Grand and Ogden is about 10 percent Italian at best, and the housing values are extremely valuable.

It's odd to me to think that most families sitting on a million dollar three flat they inherited from their grandparents would permit their kids to be gangbangers.

I know that changes as you get down Erie with the Hipsanic gangbangers, but I imagine that situation is rapidly eroding as well.

Sure as you go west toward Smith Park and the actual "Patch," the housing values are going to do go down, but I imagine buying property over there would still be very pricey, and I doubt there is a single Italian left who isn't a homeowner.

Anyway, I went to church over there once at the church near Lombardo's house and I was literally the only Caucaisian out of like 350 people.

Yeah, Its pretty crazy that They're still able to control the neighborhood. No one fucks with them. Even the SDs east of Damen & the LKs west of California/Humboldt That fight for territory with them respect their corners to an extent.

The thing is, a lot of them don't actually live there anymore (some stayed, a la Cozzo, Spina, Capuzi, Koroluk) but Albie Vena lives in the western burbs & the Panozzos are Park Ridge people now.

They just spend every waking minute in their old Patch doing dirt & controlling corners. They just don't want to have to live next to a bunch of Mexicans.

Welcome to the life of a Chicago Mafia street soldier. These guys are dirty men. They get off on heists & grimy business. No matter how much money they make.

Also, it's entirely possible that a shift is occurring where Outfit soldier's sons will move back into the old neighborhoods to set up shop.