That only makes me want her more . . . . son .

And some say the mediterranean look is passé... Obviously not!

This takes the NY v Chicago Deep dish argument to a new level....

Probably because New York doesn't have a style of pizza. They have pizza.... That New Yorkers (for some reason) thinks is better than it is elsewhere despite it literally being no different.

Take it from someone who did six years as a line cook, 2.5 of them in a high end pizzeria called Pizzeria Gusto. I'm probably about to get flamed, but that is the honest to god truth.

(yes I've been to NYC and yes I tried multiple pizza joints recommended by my local friend.)

What most people call "new york pizza", or, the impression that I got when I was there, was that New York pizza is the same greasy (delicious) crap that it is in any "fast food" pizza joint anywhere else. And don't get me wrong, you can get some damn good pizza in NYC, but, seriously... Go to any big city in North America and you'll find the same thing.

I love some deep dish! That is one thing I'm sad I didn't get to do in NY on Sandy was try some good Italian food in NY.

Rhode Island had some good food too.

Snake, thanks for the Ferrell link regarding Ferriola and Eldorado's initiation. Had never seen that before...good find.

Agreed that is very good. Eldorado was known as a guy who always had weapons on hand for the Outfit.

ChiTown, do you know if Nicky Guzzino is still active in town? I thought he got in a lot of trouble a number of years ago.

I think he's in his 70s by now. I have no idea if he is still active or not, but I would guess he's in charge of whatever is left down there if he is.

Guzzino is 73. Not sure about his activity level.

@joefromtheheights


if you're from the north end then why are u asking somebody that isn't


@chitown


it's not just chicago heights, it's the area surrounding the heights

plus the area surrounding calumet city and northwest indy

there are alot of blue collar towns in the area

Someone on RD posted this link. Claims it was an Outfit job linked to Venute. Any thoughts on this HSC or ChiTown?

http://www.dukesblotter.com/2012/06/melrose-park-retired-sergeant.html?m=1

Some info on old Outfit members

Salvatore Giancana, currently resides at 1147 South Wenonah Avenue in Oak Park, Ill. He has aliases of "Sam Gincani," "Albert Masusco,"Sam Mooney," "Sam Flood," "Salvatore Giancona." He is an ex convict. He was arrested and rearrested on three murder investigations before he was 20 years old. He has served time for larceny of auto, burglary, and illegal moonshining. Subject has been arrested over 60 times for various charges.

Sam Battaglia of 1114 North Ridgeland Avenue, Oak Park, Ill. He is also an ex convict. He was first arrested at the age of 15 years.. He has served time for attempted burglary and assault to commit murder. He has been arrested on numerous occasions for robbery, assault, and investigation of murder.

Anthony Accardo, of 915 Franklin Street. He since has vacated this premise in River Forest, Ill. His aliases: "Joe Batters," "Tony," "Big Tuna." Subject was first arrested for a motor vehicle violation 5 weeks before his 16th birthday. Arrested numerous times for investigation but has never been sentenced to prison.

Paul Ricca of 1515 Bonnie Brae, River Forest, ILL. True name: Paul DeLuca. "The Waiter," "The Porter," with aliases of "Paul Viela," "Paul Villa," "Paul Salue," "Paul Maglio," and "Paul Barstow." Criminal record.: He is an ex convict. Arrest record on subject dates back to 1927. Served time for conspiracy and income tax evasion. Was arrested twice in his native Italy for investigation of murder.

Dominick Nuccio, 2731 North Neva Avenue, Chicago.Alias: "Libby," "Little Libby," "Joe Delane," "Mike Carol," and "Nino." He is an ex convict, has a lengthy police record. He has been charged numerous times with robbery, larceny, burglary, murder, and violation of the internal revenue laws.
He has served time in the Cook County house of correction for vagrancy.

Dominick DiBella with aliases of "Bello," "Bells," "DeBello," and "Frank Thomas." He has been arrested over 30 times for investigation on charges of murder, larceny, and carrying concealed weapons.

Dominick Brancata, alias "Gags." He is an ex convict; subject arrested over 25 times for investigation of charges from vagrancy to investigation of murder.

Felix Alderisio with aliases of "Milwaukee Phil" and "Phil Gato." He has a long history of arrests for investigation of murders, auto theft, and violations of the internal revenue laws. Most recently he has been arrested by the FBI on an extortion case.

Rocco Fischetti, 9356 Forest View Road, Skokie, Ill., with aliases of "John Senna," "Charles Miller," and "Ralph Fisher." In 1943, he was indicted on a charge of conspiracy but not convicted. He was arrested on three other occasions for investigation of gambling activities.

Ross Prio of 1721 Sunset Ridge Road, Glenview, Ill., with aliases of "Rosario Priolo," "Rosario Fabricini." His arrest record dates back to 1929. He has been arrested for investigation of an explosion, violation of the U.S.prohibition act, and interrogated on numerous occasions regarding gangland murders.

Murray Humphreys, residing at Marina City, East Tower, Chicago, with aliases of "The Camel" "John Humphrey," "Joseph Burns", arrest record of subject dates back to 1961. He has been convicted and served sentence for tax evasion and carrying concealed weapons.

Ralph Pierceof 7743 South Merril Avenue, Chicago,ILL Alias, Robert W. Symons. Subject'S arrest record reflects he has been charged with rape, larceny of auto, kidnaping, and assault. He has been interrogated in several gangland murders.

Gus Alex of 1150 North Lake Shore Drive, Chicago; aliases "Slim," "Mr Ryan," "Paul Benson," and "Sam Taylor."
He has been arrested 13 times for murder investigations.

Frank Ferraro, of 320 West Oakdale Avenue, or 2601 South Wallace Street, Chicago,ILL Aliases: "Strongy," "Anthony Pinelli," and "Sortino." Arrest record of the subject and photograph of the subject were ordered destroyed February 19, 1945. He was arrested in the murder investigation but never convicted.

John Michael Caifano of 939 Belleforte Avenue, Chicago. Aliases "John Marshall," "Shoes," and "Heels." Criminal record: He is an ex convict. His arrest record dates back to 1929 with a conviction for larceny. He has been questioned several times relative to gangland type murders. He is currently on bond pending trial in Nevada for an attempted extortion.

Frank Cerone of 4301 Judd Street, Schiller Park,Ill., alias "Skippy," and "Frank Rolling." He is an ex convict convicted and sentenced to the U.S. penitentiary in 1945 for aiding and abetting draft evasion.

Jack Cerone of 1712 North Normandy Avenue, Elmwood Park, ILL. Aliases:" Jackie the Lackey" and" Johnny Cironi." Arrest record dates back to 1933. He has been arrested for robbery, bookmaking, and murder.

Joseph Glimco, of 629 Selbourne Drive, Riverside, Ill.
Alias "Giuseppe Primvera" and" John Murray." Subject has a total of 36 arrests varying from larceny, robbery, assault with intent to commit murder, auto theft, malicious mischief, and vagrancy. He has served a total of 20 days in the Bridewell.

Rocco DeStevano, his criminal record was destroyed by Commissioner Allman on August 28,1945. He resides at 2912 North Commonwealth Avenue, Chicago,ILL

Fiore Buccieri, of 3004 South Maple Avenue, Berwyn, ILL. Alias "Fifi." Subject's arrest record dates back to 1925. He served 10 days in the house of correction for petty larceny. Other arrests include receiving stolen property and investigation of murder.

Frank Caruso, alias "Skid,", "Frank Spino." Subject's arrest record began in 1935. He has been arrested for larceny, conspiracy, and gambling.

William Aloisio, alias "Smokes." He is an ex convict. His arrest record dates back to 1928. He was sentenced to 5 years in Leavenworth, Kans., for aiding and abetting evasion of the draft of the armed services.

Fred Thomas Smith, alias "Juke Box" Smith. Subject was arrested for murder in 1925. In 1935, he received 5 days in the house of correction for assault with a deadly weapon.

Leonard Patrick, of 2820 West Jarlath Avenue, Chicago. Alias "John Cohen," "Leonard Devine." He is an ex convict. His arrest record began in 1932. He was convicted and sentenced to 10 years for bank robbery. He has also been arrested in numerous murder investigations.
David Yaras, of 8042 Know Avenue, Skokie, Ill.
Criminal record dates back to 1930. He has been arrested for burglary, robbery, and murder.

Lester Kruse, of 5206 Oakton Avenue, Skokie, Ill. Aliases: "Killer Kane," "Kid," and "George Howley." His arrest record was ordered destroyed by court order. He has
been arrested twice for murder investigation. His FBI number is 274989B.

Arrest report on Philip Alderisio & Charles Nicoletti


On May 2, 1962, the Chicago police received a call that a suspicious automobile was parked in front of 1750 Superior Street, in Chicago. Upon investigation, police officers discovered a 1962 Ford sedan parked at the specified location. Crouched on the floor of the car to avoid detection were two notorious Outfit hoodlums, Philip Alderisio, of 515 Longcommon Road Riverside, ILL, and Charles Nicoletti, of 1638 North 19th Avenue, Melrose Park, ILL. Alderisio and Nicoletti informed the investigating officers that the car did not belong to them and they had no Idea as to the identity of its owner.

They insisted that they were merely sitting on the floor of the automobile waiting for some unidentified person when the police arrived at 1 a.m. Alderisio and Nicoletti were taken into custody and subsequently released on a $1,000 bond. The automobile in which Alderisio and Nicoletti were riding at the time of their arrest was registered in the name of Walter Getz, of 9340 South New England Avenue in Oak Lawn, ILL. This address turned out to be a vacant lot, and the Walter Getz nonexistent.

Under the dashboard of this automobile were concealed three switches. Two of these switches enabled the operators of the car to disconnect the taillights. Without taillights, the police would have difficulty in following the car at night. The third switch turned on an electric motor which opened a hidden compartment in the back rest of the front seat. This compartment was fitted with brackets to hold shotguns and rifles. And by demonstrating this particular opening in the back rest, we found that a machine gun could be secreted in the compartment also.

Danny's cafe in Melrose Park? I have friends in Elmwood I'm sure I can get a pic or make the trek myself. Hell I want to hit Hot Dougs b4 it closes in 3 weeks so I could just head west myself, show the wife some of the city and maybe hit Jim & Petes in Elmwood for dinner.

I always found it hard to believe that Tony Accardo never spent a day in prison.

No time in prison, but at least one, possibly two nights in jail. One was in Feb. 1946. Not sure about the other, maybe during the Hollywood Extortion trial. Maurice Walsh was the prosecutor. Walsh would later represent Accardo in numerous court appearances and trials.

That would be great. Would love to see that photo.

Louis Fratto/Lew Farrell Questioned by RFK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek8Wy-WQNCc

Yep it's in the attached room; not the main room you walk into. I should have taken a pic with my phone.

Well, the higher the quality the photo the better for identification purposes. I know some phones like the Nokia have really high pixel cameras. Then you might have to turn off the flash if that pops up. Really looking forward to whoever puts it up for us.

That photo of Accardo might also include the Dote's father who was an Outfit guy.

No one has any thoughts on this?

I don't know much about Pete Venute - I've only heard he is a rough guy. I have no idea, but wouldn't rule it out.

A friend of mine told me that Susek's son was pretty involved in Melrose in the 90s before he died. Said he was very suspicious of the OD. Who knows.

I grew up out there and it would not surprise that the outfit was involved.
It would surprise me if you could get new shoelaces in Melrose Park without the mob being involved.

But the only connection of Pete Venute to this (just about the only mention of Venute at all), comes from anonymous comments by a guy who has the caplock stuck on his computer.
This means one of two things. Either anon has special inside knowledge, or Venute's dog keeps cr@pping on anon's lawn

Isn't there a Rocco Venute who was on the Melrose PD? He was caught up in the Vito Scavo thing. Melrose Park is perhaps one of the most crooked areas in Chicago - I'd go as far as saying the Outfit's stronghold.

This is from the Pioneer Local http://blogs.pioneerlocal.com/proviso/2009/05/ Scavo to cop: You can't keep worrying if you're doing something wrong
By Jolie Lee on May 14, 2009 5:52 PM | 1 Comment | No TrackBacks
In secretly recorded conversations, then-Police Chief Vito Scavo coached an officer in what to tell the feds during an FBI investigation, the prosecution alleges in Scavo's federal corruption trial.

Current Melrose Park police officer Rocco Venute cooperated with the feds soon after the Sept. 8, 2005, raid on the police station and recorded at least nine conversations with Scavo and other officers.

In one conversation, recorded on Oct. 10, 2005, Scavo and Venute meet at Venute's house to count money collected at a haunted house parking lot.

The parking lot belonged to Navistar, which offered free use as a public service, but Scavo was charging cars to park in the lot. Venute, who parked the cars, split the money with Scavo, each taking about $4,000 during the month the haunted house was open. A Navistar employee also got a cut of the money.

In the recording, Venute expresses some concern about charging cars to park in Navistar's lot.

"You are thinking too much," Scavo said to Venute.

"What are we doing wrong? We've got permission from Navistar. We're parking the cars." Then Scavo said, referring to paying taxes, "This year we're gonna have to claim half."

Scavo continued, "We ain't doin' nothing wrong .... You can't, you can't live your life worrying if you're doing something wrong every five minutes, right? Cause we're not doing nothin' wrong. ... You tell the truth. If you did something wrong, you have something to worry about. You didn't do anything wrong. I didn't do nothing wrong, and neither did you. Can't live like that, Roc. That's a bad thing you do. You, you're, you're flipped . . ."

So Rocco Venute is a rat. Makes you question if his father is some big drug dealer connected to the outfit.

Was reading Harry Alemans' obit, and his step daughters and granddaughters are married to outfit connected men or outfit associated families. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/chicagotribune/obituary.aspx?pid=142889144