Originally Posted By: thecooler
Great thread and good info HK!

I believe at least one FBI source said Genovses members Al Ross and Patsy Erra were allegedly inducted during the 1940s. If this is accurate, it's likely there were more inductees during this period.

(Mind you, the source could have been confused about the dates and the real induction date was early 1950s which we know members were being inducted.)

As for when Mangano and Cirillo were inducted, Valachi is a pretty reliable source about the Genovese Crime Family membership in 1963 and he never included them on his list of members(as far as I can recall).

Besides Quiet Dom was a protege of the Pagano Bros who were only just made themselves before the books were closed.


Agreed on all accounts. Just for the record though, I´m not disputing the fact that new recruits were made in the 1940s. But they were not many of them. It was later, in the 1950s, the five Families made tons of them.

Regarding Al Ross and Patsy Erra, I think I´ve seen that document. It said that the two of them were given contracts and promises of getting made. But somehow the two of them managed to botch the hit. They were made anyway because they were very much liked by the higher ups.

Cirillo was sponsered by Joseph Pagano in 1976. This may explain Cirillo´s closeness to Pagano´s son Danny.

@ Zavattoni, I know that you´ve been told that Mangano was made way before the 1970s. I have read this thread from the top. My info however is that he was made in 1972. Let´s just agree to disagree. smile

Last edited by HairyKnuckles; 08/12/14 07:26 AM. Reason: added info

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