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Joey Merlino not killed by NYC ????
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08/14/14 11:53 AM
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Stanfa makes Merlino.. Stanfa is a boss, Merlino tries to kill a boss .. Totally breaks the rules of the commission and the 5 families dont do anything? Stanfa goes to Jail and then Merlino has a ceremony and makes Nalalie ...and Then makes Ralph Natalie the boss. !!! Natalie gets arrested and then cooperates.. And Merlino made him..NYC does nothing ? At the very least i would of thought NYC or the other cities wouldnt recognize Merlino.
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Re: Joey Merlino not killed by NYC ????
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08/14/14 12:26 PM
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Stanfa makes Merlino.. Stanfa is a boss, Merlino tries to kill a boss .. Totally breaks the rules of the commission and the 5 families dont do anything? Stanfa goes to Jail and then Merlino has a ceremony and makes Nalalie ...and Then makes Ralph Natalie the boss. !!! Natalie gets arrested and then cooperates.. And Merlino made him..NYC does nothing ? At the very least i would of thought NYC or the other cities wouldnt recognize Merlino. That stuff all happened post-commission. I don't care how many times people bring up the 2004 meeting or even the Massino meeting, those were more like informal get-togethers. By the mid '90s the New York families had so many of their own problems that no one cared. And today? Pfffft. They can make whoever the Hell they want down there. No one in New York gives a shit.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Joey Merlino not killed by NYC ????
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08/14/14 01:45 PM
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For so many year's Angelo Bruno low key style was the template for stability. Nicky Scarfo comes into power, vindictive and blood thirsty & greedy. Old School guys get killed. Good stand up guys who understand the life are slaughtered. Not a Rat among them. The goofs who killed for Scarfo (Grande, Leonetti, Yogi Merlino, Caramandi, Milano, etc. ALL RAT ! Scarfo choose quanity over quality and it destroyed the family. Stanfa was a zip who would have been better off if he had a crew of zip's not the junkie's and rat's that he made. Natale was out of touch with the young guy's and deceided that he owed them nothing and rolled over. Since the early 90's the NYC families all have major LE problem's. Truthfully if it was not for George Anastasia the Philly's would have been almost forgotten !
wise old owl sat on a oak , the more he heard the less he spoke , the less he spoke the more he heard , wasn't that a wise ole bird.
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Re: Joey Merlino not killed by NYC ????
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08/14/14 03:11 PM
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Stanfa makes Merlino.. Stanfa is a boss, Merlino tries to kill a boss .. Totally breaks the rules of the commission and the 5 families dont do anything? Stanfa goes to Jail and then Merlino has a ceremony and makes Nalalie ...and Then makes Ralph Natalie the boss. !!! Natalie gets arrested and then cooperates.. And Merlino made him..NYC does nothing ? At the very least i would of thought NYC or the other cities wouldnt recognize Merlino. That stuff all happened post-commission. I don't care how many times people bring up the 2004 meeting or even the Massino meeting, those were more like informal get-togethers. By the mid '90s the New York families had so many of their own problems that no one cared. And today? Pfffft. They can make whoever the Hell they want down there. No one in New York gives a shit. you said it brother NY has not given a shit about anything but NY for a decade or two they got enough of their own problems and they wouldnt make a ton of money from philly anyway they are fighting over the spoils as it is with a small family
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Re: Joey Merlino not killed by NYC ????
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08/14/14 03:22 PM
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Stanfa makes Merlino.. Stanfa is a boss, Merlino tries to kill a boss .. Totally breaks the rules of the commission and the 5 families dont do anything? Stanfa goes to Jail and then Merlino has a ceremony and makes Nalalie ...and Then makes Ralph Natalie the boss. !!! Natalie gets arrested and then cooperates.. And Merlino made him..NYC does nothing ? At the very least i would of thought NYC or the other cities wouldnt recognize Merlino. That stuff all happened post-commission. I don't care how many times people bring up the 2004 meeting or even the Massino meeting, those were more like informal get-togethers. By the mid '90s the New York families had so many of their own problems that no one cared. And today? Pfffft. They can make whoever the Hell they want down there. No one in New York gives a shit. you said it brother Like my wife's been telling me for thirty years, even a busted clock gets it right twice a day  .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Joey Merlino not killed by NYC ????
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08/15/14 10:17 AM
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While Stanfa was obviously backed by the Gambinos, the Merlino faction supposedly had the tacit support of the Genovese. Sort of a "cold war" scenario, as one poster on another forum put it. Natale also had connections to NY. Fast-forward, it's well known that members of both NY families plotted with Philadelphia guys to have Ligambi, Mazzone, and Borgesi killed in order to expand their video poker operations. Yet, later on, the NY families are supposedly on good terms with Ligambi. I remember reading one article that said they were pushing for Ligambi to replace Mazzone and Borgesi with Staino and Lucibello but it was ultimately his call. The days where Chin simply told Philadelphia how it was going to be (this guy dies, this guy is going to retire, this guy is the new boss) are gone. But if the current makeup in Philadelphia, or more likely South Jersey, has some affect on NY guys making money, I think they care to some extent.
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Re: Joey Merlino not killed by NYC ????
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08/15/14 11:58 AM
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But if the current makeup in Philadelphia, or more likely South Jersey, has some affect on NY guys making money, I think they care to some extent. Of course, Ivy. That's a different story. If you fuck with their money, they're going to care. No two ways about it. But the days of the New York families caring one way or another about the structures and pecking orders of the outside families are gone for good.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Joey Merlino not killed by NYC ????
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08/15/14 04:08 PM
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Why would anyone from NY care unless it was going to affect their rackets? If Merlino tried to push them out of NJ then he would be dead in a NY minute.
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Re: Joey Merlino not killed by NYC ????
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08/15/14 04:19 PM
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pizzaboy
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Why would anyone from NY care unless it was going to affect their rackets? If Merlino tried to push them out of NJ then he would be dead in a NY minute. Clever pun  .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Joey Merlino not killed by NYC ????
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08/15/14 11:30 PM
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Why would anyone from NY care unless it was going to affect their rackets? If Merlino tried to push them out of NJ then he would be dead in a NY minute. Clever pun  . Is a NY minute twice as long? The city so nice, they named it twice. I kill me too 
MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack. CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go. MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'. WILL: So don't go.
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Re: Joey Merlino not killed by NYC ????
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08/16/14 03:06 PM
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What about the idea that as long as the Feds have Philly under a microscope they're aren't interested in NY atm? Oh, you mean if the Feds could put a guy like Marty Angelina away for domestic abuse, and get those pesky Joker Poker machines out of the bars in Philly, that they wouldn't be interested in bringing down the Five Families anymore? Yeah, that's the ticket! 
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Joey Merlino not killed by NYC ????
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08/17/14 08:26 AM
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Here is an example of the Ligambi regime recently having interaction with Gambino and Genovese mob a few years ago before he got locked up and eventually acquitted...
Happy Birthday to Joe Mobsters flock to Margate to celebrate the Philly crime boss's 68th. by Brendan McGarvey
print email reply rss feed Published: Aug 15, 2007
Guess who wasn't invited to reputed mob boss Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi's birthday bash at the Shore last Saturday night? Nicky Scarfo Jr., that's who. Nope, Nicky Jr. was not asked to help blow out the 68 candles on Ligambi's cake at Memories nightclub in Margate, even though he lives less than a mile away on the same barrier island.
Recent media reports —namely, a front pager by Inquirer mob watcher George Anastasio — focused on rumors that the 42-year-old Scarfo is positioning himself to take over the Philly Cosa Nostra with backing from dear old dad, Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo.
To understand the lack of love some in the Philadelphia Mafia have for the Scarfos, go back to the mid-1980s, when the teenaged Junior was a familiar sight in mob clubhouses in South Jersey and South Philly.
ADVERTISEMENT Little Nicky ran the Philadelphia Mafia from his apartment on Georgia Avenue in Atlantic City during the 1980s and set a gangland record for killing off, demoting and exiling members of his own crime family. In those days, Ligambi was a bookmaker and associate of underboss Salvatore "Chucky" Merlino, whose son, "Skinny Joey," was pals with Junior.
It seemed to be one big happy crime family until 1986, when Little Nicky demoted Salvatore to soldier and passed over Ligambi for a promotion because of Ligambi's close ties to the demoted underboss. Junior then avoided his friend, making it clear that his father's fall from power affected Merlino's own underworld status.
Three years later, Little Nicky, Salvatore and his brother Lawrence, Phil Leonetti and more than two dozen members and associates of the crime family, including Ligambi, were arrested, tried and convicted on various charges. With dad in jail, Junior Scarfo was still strutting around the streets of Philadelphia, which angered many of the sons and nephews of the men convicted with Scarfo.
They blamed Little Nicky for mismanaging the crime family and wanted to send him a message. So on Halloween night in 1989, a gunman dressed in a Batman mask blasted Junior seven times inside Dante & Luigi's restaurant in South Philadelphia. Although never charged with the shooting, law enforcement and underworld sources swear to this day that the gunman was none other than Skinny Joey.
Scarfo Jr. survived and as soon as he was released from the hospital, moved to North Jersey, where he was twice arrested on gambling and loan-sharking charges and served two prison terms. Scarfo's dad allegedly arranged protection for his son from the Lucchese mob family.
While law enforcement sources claim Junior is now a Lucchese capo, his attorney says Scarfo, who is still on parole for his 2002 conviction, has nothing to do with any organized crime family and that he moved to Ventnor to be closer to relatives.
But now, the man who Scarfo's dad passed over for membership in the mob is the big boss of a crime family that operates in Atlantic City. Making matters more interesting is the fact that Skinny Joey, a Ligambi friend and ally, should be back out on the streets in about four years.
Still, local made men don't think Scarfo Jr. has too much to worry about. They say Ligambi will be boss until he dies or goes to jail and, as a member of a powerful New York crime family, Scarfo Jr. is safe in South Jersey — as long as he doesn't try a power grab.
"If that kid wants to make money with us, that would not be a problem. Money is always a good thing," one Philly mob associate tells City Paper. "He should be OK, as long as he don't eat at Dante & Luigi's again."
While Junior was nowhere to be seen in Margate last weekend, at least 40 "made" members of the Philadelphia Mafia, including the entire North Jersey crew, as well as representatives from the two most powerful borgatas in the country — the Genovese and Gambino crime families — were there.
"They came to pay respect to Uncle Joe," says one mob associate who attended. "They like him in New York."
The New York mobsters who zoomed down the Garden State Parkway for Uncle Joe's celebration were there to let the alleged boss of the Philadelphia underworld know that the Genovese and Gambino mobs are quite happy with his leadership. Responding to published reports indicating that Ligambi might also be thinking about having a retirement party sometime soon — which would hypothetically create a power vacuum for Scarfo Jr. — one associated simply explained that, "Joe Ligambi ain't retiring to Florida."
(editorial@citypaper.net)
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