is your problem with trenton's politics or the residents of trenton?

if trenton is fucked up then it's because of the powers that be

not the so-called residents

You realize we're talking about camden right?

police corruption in camden was out of control.mostly the special investigations unit.
http://www.phillyburbs.com/my_town/moore...ca82a05878.html

http://www.aroundphilly.com/blog/2012/04...erturned-cases/

http://www.aclu.org/criminal-law-reform/camden-agrees-pay-35m-victims-police-corruption

They laid off half the police department but hired some guys back for less money. They are in the process now of having a new county police force that will primarily patrol Camden. I report to parole on hadron ave right across from the police building and even literally right there it is pretty sketchy lol.

I'd think more East Orange than West. West Orange at least has some nice parts.

There are mansions with west orange addresses. Central orange, east and south, hell they all suck.

Agreed. But I always felt the least safe in East Orange, or Illtown as Naughty By Nature used to call it.

My friend in Philadelphia told me how Camden NJ is nothing to mess around with going to, and how it makes parts of North Philadelphia look like a nice area.

I grew up in West Orange in the 80s . It has certainly gotten worse , and mostly on the East Orange border but it's still not that bad . Somewhat similiar to a Montclair which has some areas that can be tough yet million dollar houses blocks away . The high school has gotten worse as the wealthier send their kids to seton hall prep . A lot of NJ devils lived there. South Orange has some similarities to West Orange.

Now east orange is bad and Irvington is a disaster , back in the day though it was all Italian , I basically consider it a bad spot of Newark but it's scary bad . My first job out of college I had to close a financial product at the person house in Irvington , hilarious me In my suit , white boy on Springfield ave and everyone just assumes your there for drugs , I haven't been back lol

I haven't been there in probably 10 years, but West Orange was always very nice compared to East and South Orange. There's a lot of money in West Orange, I can't picture the place turning into a dump. Must be just certain neighborhoods on the border.

There really are no Italians left in Chambersburg anymore whatsoever. Rossi's recently closed this past summer as well as Papa's relocated to Robbinsville. Trenton is just a poor, gang ridden city that is almost entirely Black and Hispanic. Amici Milano is last standing Italian restaurant in the 'Burg. The Italians are now out in the suburbs mainly spread out throughout the Hamilton Township suburbs and somewhat Robbinsville. Here are more recent Trenton mafia activity articles...

Crack?!?!, is this guy even in a real crew, theres no way

Anyone have any info on this 1995 hit in...as never solved

More Trenton articles if anyone even cares....

Sammy The Bull in Trenton

Philly LCN briefly run by a Trenton Capo in 1987

Dante,

Welcome to the boards and thank you for the articles.

That crack guy was not a member of an actual crew, but more of a "junior crew" called the Pitbulls I believe. They were kind of like a farm team, most into drugs.

And Trenton's scumbag citizenry is a huge part of the reason it's fucked up....it's not just the leaders. Of course this subject cannot be honestly addressed on this board.

NNY78,

Thank you for the warm welcome, I have been enjoying this forum for years now-figured that I would finally sign up and contribute. I always enjoyed reading your posts among many other posters here. Salute!

Another article-Recent gambino activity in Trenton (garbage)

JerseyShine,

Were they a farm team for the Philly LCN and Gambino LCN crews that were operating in Trenton area or what? I never heard of them before. Trenton is run by the Bloods and MS13 now 100% within the city.

Dante, the pitbulls had ZERO ties to LCN. I grew up in that area during their heyday. The original pitbulls (who would be in their early to mid 40s now) were just a bunch of chambersburg kids who got into fights. Period. No rackets whatsoever, just brawlers. Then there was a slightly younger crew who emulated them. Were talking about 5 or 6 kids tops. Same thing. Only about fighting, no rackets. They killed some kid (Andrew Whited) during a party when they were all drugged up and half of them flipped on each other. Now one of them is doing life. The gang is non-existent now. It was never really bigger than about 10 kids who would go out and brawl. Now some are dead (mostly ODs) and some in prison....the rest are family guys now that they outgrew their teenage brawling phase. It was nothing more than a teenage gang.

The crack guy mentioned above has nothing to do with the pitbulls. He was much older than those guys. I think I heard from someone that I know that he became friendly with some LCN guys while in prison but can't confirm that.

There really isn't any LCN in the trenton area anymore that I know of. If there is some gambling, they may be kicking up to someone in Philly most likely but who knows. There are pretty much zero Italians living in Trenton these days. They all moved to Hamilton or surrounding areas.

You should always tell the truth as you see it.
Everybody here is an adult...just be consistent.

Most of west orange is still nice, although very jewish. The area that borders orange is where all the trouble is. Montclair, south orange, and maplewood is now a haven for ultra liberals from the west side of manhattan and park slope brooklyn; a bunch of friggin weirdo's. The women dont cook and the men are a bunch of fags. I mean that in a good way..lol

Ahhh you could say something like that...though I don't know if any of them ever got called up to the majors. Many/most of them were involved with crack smoking shenanigans, and I'm sure a few at least got involved in the dope scene that is so huge in Trenton (and all of NJ really). "Capone" is just the most infamous of the bunch.

And yeah, Chambersburg started to die off around the mid to late 90's and now the process is just about complete, and that was the last Italian stronghold in the city of Trenton. Even Amici Milano's is run by an Egyptian now and recently left the city. The BEST place to eat left in the Burg and by extension all of Trenton is Blue Danube, which serves Eastern/Central European food. You can sometimes see wiseguys in there...or at least those playing the part. Malagas is great too but technically in Hamilton.

Camden may be the single worst city in America. If its not #1 its top 3.
60 Minutes did a piece on Camden about twenty five thirty years ago and they were interviewing a parish priest - he said if Jesus came back today and landed in Camden he turn around and go right back up to heaven.
Shame because back in the day lots of immigrant families settled in Camden, lots of job oppurtunities with the Delaware water front, Campbell Soup HQ, etc. al.

Yeah if only we could pick out some common denomenator between Trenton, Camden, Detroit etc...

Jerseyshine,

Seems like your hinting around that your a racist,a coward and a imbecile but I can't be sure with your cryptic posts. Let me answer your question for you though about the 3 cities, they are all in the dumper because of a lack of quality jobs, the breakdown of the family unit and drugs probably supplied by guys like Vegasmikey. Hope that helps

Let's all be open and honest.

The common denominator in those cities are Black families that don't stress education or entrepreneurship to their children.
When you do that, you remain stuck in the same place socially & economically for generations.
Previous immigrant groups took what work was available but pushed their children to get educations or trades. Many members of those earlier groups left. The ones who were left behind and encounter the new immigrant group, Blacks from the south moving north, are angry.
Angry at the neighborhood destroying behavior of some of the members of the new group, and mad at themselves for not taking advantage of opportunities like other members of their own ethnic group did and not being able to move somewhere else. Familiarity breeds contempt.

If you feel a group of people are beneath you, and then they are living among you and you can't move away, I guess you'd start questioning some of your life decisions.


I've lived in a wide range of places and been a part of a range of "social classes" . I'm not gonna come in here and tell lies or argue against the truth about what happened to those cities.


People not stressing education/entrepreneurship to their children...and when the factories close down...or when an even newer group of immigrants come in and are willing/able to work for less than what you are..........you're left behind. True for Detroit,Camden, Trenton (Trenton makes, the world takes), and true for Newark,NJ.

Lets not kid ourselves, the high crime rate area's of our country are a direct result of children born out of wedlock with no father figure. I dont care how many high paying jobs are available in those communities, if there is no father enforcing discipline in a household, why would some 17 year old kid bother getting a job??? Im not saying to ignore the job situation, quite the contrary and some blacks will prosper. However, if anyone thinks that will come close to rectifying their issues, i have a bridge to sell you.
Also, most of these woman have kids with a few different men. The black community leaders need to step up to the plate and address this problem head on. They need a a Nancy Reagan " just say no to having children out of wedlock" campaign.
Problem will never go away until black woman come to terms with their destructive behavior. I will get a lot of hate mail but what i say is true. Of course whites are guilty as well but not near the magnitude of blacks.

1)The lowest form of life is a man who leaves his family.


2)The community leaders are, 99% of the time, from the clergy.Been true historically and true now. They are not ever going to actively promote family planning,sex education, birth control, or abortion.In my opinion organized religion hinders Black people in countless ways and as it stands, clergy members are not equipped to lead in a realistic way.

I totally agree that many people living in those neighborhoods have made bad decisions that have had destructive consequences for them. But the manufacturing jobs moving overseas made those willing and able to work move elsewhere to find jobs. Which depressed the economy and more businesses closed. So more of the folks willing and able to work moved away. So more industries and businesses closed, and on and on in a vicious cycle.

YOUR right I must be a imbecile with that kind of post.

This is Present Day Trenton

Back in the late 60's till the 90's it was a decent place on hamilton. I had business there.
All of a sudden it was like a wave of scum came over that city.The last shop i had open was in the 90,s had to close it ,The place was on Hamilton ave ,I would not let my dog walk down that street now...

And all the people that cry about organized crime look at what the places were like then.

Now look at all these places now that you have disorganized crime...

"Well" The ones that complained wish that it was back the way it was.....

Nothing but scum ,they can not even live with each other...
I don't care about color or nationality or country or continent they are from.

The local mafioso may have extorted the textile plant down on the water front,but in the lot in the neighborhood he grew a garden and fed the hungry. It may not of been right ,but they did not live like animals ,and did not treat each other like animals....

All you have to do is LOOK !!!!