Tommy Helms was a pretty good player, but Rose wasn't moved from second base to the outfield because the Reds just had to get Tommy Helms in the lineup. I think there's better evidence that Jeter was a pretty good shortstop when he was young than that Rose was a good second baseman. Rose claws some points back for moving around among all the positions he could play, but there's always a premium for guys who can hold a position up the middle and also really hit.