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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
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09/19/14 10:09 AM
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Mikey franzese did. Look who his dad was. Can I count john Jr Gotti. He grew up in Howard beach in a nice home. His mom was a house wife.. And never worked a day in her life. Only reason why the Gotti family would go broke was because john Sr was a lousy gambler and would loose hundreds of thousands smh lol moron. Who else, there is many others... Old timer like Salvatore "bill" bonanno... Son of joe bonanno. He grew up in Hempstead Long Island... A well off area, a nice comfortable living before he got mobbed up. Salvatore maranzano grew up very wealthy in Palermo Sicily before be came to the states in 1925-1926. I can't think of no others right now. Lol
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
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Moe's question was... Who else came from a comfortable back ground. I thought he meant wiseguys who grew up comfortable before they joined the mob. I must of read the question wrong lol
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
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That's why I mentioned mike franzese. He grew up wanting for nothing, went to a good private school (hofstra university) and was suppose to be legitimated. Jr Gotti grew up comfortable not wanting for nothing but he wanted to be just like his dad so he was destined to be a gangster. I don't think Mike franzese wanted to follow in his fathers foot steps but his dad needed him to take care of his business when he got jammed up in the late 60's and did that time. I got one... What about Sal ruggerio.... Son to quack quack ruggerio. How did he grow up? I am guessing he grew up pretty good with all that drug money his father was making wit his younger brother Sal and Genie Gotti. Lol
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
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09/19/14 01:56 PM
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Roy Demeo was born into a well off family.His uncle was atorney,and one was farmasist. A farmasist? Is that a person who works on a farm?
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
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That's why I mentioned mike franzese. He grew up wanting for nothing, went to a good private school (hofstra university) and was suppose to be legitimated. Jr Gotti grew up comfortable not wanting for nothing but he wanted to be just like his dad so he was destined to be a gangster. I don't think Mike franzese wanted to follow in his fathers foot steps but his dad needed him to take care of his business when he got jammed up in the late 60's and did that time. I got one... What about Sal ruggerio.... Son to quack quack ruggerio. How did he grow up? I am guessing he grew up pretty good with all that drug money his father was making wit his younger brother Sal and Genie Gotti. Lol Those kids were influenced and wanted to be just like daddy.
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
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09/19/14 02:02 PM
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Roy Demeo was born into a well off family.His uncle was atorney,and one was farmasist. A farmasist? Is that a person who works on a farm? /me chuckles Neg Mul. It's an ASSISTANT on a farm. 
MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack. CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go. MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'. WILL: So don't go.
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
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09/19/14 02:05 PM
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Jon Perna
Obviously the family was 100% CN , they grew up in Belleville when it wasn't as dark and a decent place to live ( tough Italian neighborhood and still is in some sections further from Newark border ) . Jon was one of top wrestlers in the state ( state champ and top 3 every year in HS) and received a degree from seton hall ( tuition is $50k a year but think he had a scholly ) .
Joe was older than me but I think he went to college too
Now the kids had some growing up to do ( notice how much info was on those wiretaps ) but the old man wasn't on those taps , but this recent indictment IMO will result in these kids staying off the radar ( smartening up ) and still being earners in the stable book and shy business where they easily making 6 figures . Since that bust I haven't seen em at all so these kids got smart , pre indictment I knew how this crew talked . These kids will be smart n stick to book and shy ( low LE priority ) make high end income and maybe a small stretch here and there.
Ralph I believe was the only one that didn't get offered a plea so IMO that is why this has dragged out , would not be surprised if this drags out until next August when Michael gets out and I think he steps right into the leader role and do what they do best , take action and make loans and this family is one of the best on NJ at that .
Ralph is some smart gangster , hardly anyone knew crap about him but he was running things , try and find 1 thing about this guy in the 90s . If I was ever in that life I would be doing the services he provided and using that $ to buy up small construction companies and real estate for rentals, high grade weed wholesaling is something I would also think about but at a mid level layer to keep off the radar. I don't know about the permas but the Tacetta had or have union influence . I personally would stay away from the union stuff but use my family connections to get contracts . Paper recycling is another thing I would do and somehow that activity is still off the radar.
Jeez I know of a major waste transportation company killing it , in fact killing it so much that A P/E firm bought a big chunk , and guess who rents this company their lease ? Another guy in the biz
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
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09/19/14 03:06 PM
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Jon Perna
Obviously the family was 100% CN , they grew up in Belleville when it wasn't as dark and a decent place to live ( tough Italian neighborhood and still is in some sections further from Newark border ) . Jon was one of top wrestlers in the state ( state champ and top 3 every year in HS) and received a degree from seton hall ( tuition is $50k a year but think he had a scholly ) .
Joe was older than me but I think he went to college too
Now the kids had some growing up to do ( notice how much info was on those wiretaps ) but the old man wasn't on those taps , but this recent indictment IMO will result in these kids staying off the radar ( smartening up ) and still being earners in the stable book and shy business where they easily making 6 figures . Since that bust I haven't seen em at all so these kids got smart , pre indictment I knew how this crew talked . These kids will be smart n stick to book and shy ( low LE priority ) make high end income and maybe a small stretch here and there.
Ralph I believe was the only one that didn't get offered a plea so IMO that is why this has dragged out , would not be surprised if this drags out until next August when Michael gets out and I think he steps right into the leader role and do what they do best , take action and make loans and this family is one of the best on NJ at that .
Ralph is some smart gangster , hardly anyone knew crap about him but he was running things , try and find 1 thing about this guy in the 90s . If I was ever in that life I would be doing the services he provided and using that $ to buy up small construction companies and real estate for rentals, high grade weed wholesaling is something I would also think about but at a mid level layer to keep off the radar. I don't know about the permas but the Tacetta had or have union influence . I personally would stay away from the union stuff but use my family connections to get contracts . Paper recycling is another thing I would do and somehow that activity is still off the radar.
Jeez I know of a major waste transportation company killing it , in fact killing it so much that A P/E firm bought a big chunk , and guess who rents this company their lease ? Another guy in the biz How many kids does Ralph Perna have? Doesn't he have 3 sons that are made?
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
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09/19/14 05:23 PM
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There Joe Jon Ralph and I think 1 more
Jon and Joe are def made and will be running north jeez at some point I'm sure as Tacetta kid , while made , got no chance . Wouldn't be shocked if he is shelved when his elders are gone and he will be stuck with small scores like his recent weed deal which was so amateur , I mean HS stuff , buying a few lbs without the buyers lined up , just selling it by word of mouth which is guaranteed to end up in a bust from some random informant .
I don't think Ralph is made but I could be wrong , I really don't know
When Jon was first made he had that " do I know u bro " tude when people would say what's up , people he vaguely knew, I know big timing people . I think he watched to many movies on how a gangster should act but now I think he got his shit together, sometimes it takes a pinch or 2 for people to realize how real this is , plus he was young and was made young , he a kid that will keep that family strong , he got a legit degree so should have some good ideas on where to invest the $ and is strong , a leader
Now I don't know Barney at all but it just seems like this guy gets it and has from a young age , this was not about being cool and showing off or this or that , this was serious and a deadly biz and he played it as such , again if I passed him I wouldn't know him but he is real CN and really this seems to be the case with all Westside guys . I'm probably wrong but from things I hear , while they lost a lot of biz in fish market, some unions etc , they have greatly expanded their book n shy business with the severe weakening of the other families . I really think these guys still wield a tremendous amount of power and wealth and learned how to blend illegitimate biz w legit biz .
The mob of the the past and all it's violence is done and done forever but associates that act dumb n don't draw the media attention will still be hit and I still don't think many associates are willing to run on the bad side of the Westside . Again all just my opinion
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
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09/19/14 05:44 PM
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There Joe Jon Ralph and I think 1 more
Jon and Joe are def made and will be running north jeez at some point I'm sure as Tacetta kid , while made , got no chance . Wouldn't be shocked if he is shelved when his elders are gone and he will be stuck with small scores like his recent weed deal which was so amateur , I mean HS stuff , buying a few lbs without the buyers lined up , just selling it by word of mouth which is guaranteed to end up in a bust from some random informant .
I don't think Ralph is made but I could be wrong , I really don't know
When Jon was first made he had that " do I know u bro " tude when people would say what's up , people he vaguely knew, I know big timing people . I think he watched to many movies on how a gangster should act but now I think he got his shit together, sometimes it takes a pinch or 2 for people to realize how real this is , plus he was young and was made young , he a kid that will keep that family strong , he got a legit degree so should have some good ideas on where to invest the $ and is strong , a leader
Now I don't know Barney at all but it just seems like this guy gets it and has from a young age , this was not about being cool and showing off or this or that , this was serious and a deadly biz and he played it as such , again if I passed him I wouldn't know him but he is real CN and really this seems to be the case with all Westside guys . I'm probably wrong but from things I hear , while they lost a lot of biz in fish market, some unions etc , they have greatly expanded their book n shy business with the severe weakening of the other families . I really think these guys still wield a tremendous amount of power and wealth and learned how to blend illegitimate biz w legit biz .
The mob of the the past and all it's violence is done and done forever but associates that act dumb n don't draw the media attention will still be hit and I still don't think many associates are willing to run on the bad side of the Westside . Again all just my opinion The son Carlo won't be shelved as long as the Taccetta brothers live, as for people not wanting to get on the bad side of the Westside, are you just talking New Jersey? Then fair enough, in terms of Ny Gambino's are just as feared.
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
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09/20/14 05:40 AM
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Roy Demeo was born into a well off family.His uncle was atorney,and one was farmasist. His uncle Albert was one of the most well known Prosecutors in New York, an his other uncle was not a Pharmacist, he was a medical examiner in Brooklyn I believe it was. He actually examined Andrei Katz' corpse.
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
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09/20/14 06:21 AM
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Yes,he was from a respected family it seems.Why did he ever want to be a mobster,i just can't understand it.My parents are both doctors,and i would never consider to do ilegal stuff,and over here mobsters really have a lot of money.I am talking about Serbia.One phd doctor earns 14000 euros a year,a criminal drives a car that costs a 100000,imagine how much does he really make,drugs not included.All i want to say is i can't figure out why Demeo wanted to be a gangster.
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
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09/20/14 06:36 AM
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Yes,he was from a respected family it seems.Why did he ever want to be a mobster,i just can't understand it.My parents are both doctors,and i would never consider to do ilegal stuff,and over here mobsters really have a lot of money.I am talking about Serbia.One phd doctor earns 14000 euros a year,a criminal drives a car that costs a 100000,imagine how much does he really make,drugs not included.All i want to say is i can't figure out why Demeo wanted to be a gangster. How do you become a doctor in Serbia? Is it a mail order thing? Do you sacrifice a sheep and chant I'm a doctor three times and they give you a stethoscope and a diploma to hang on the wall? Sorry, Alex. You know I can't help myself  .
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
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[quote=DB]Yes that what I meant w Carlo but I still not sure how much they let him in He got busted with a Mickey Mouse weed operation ( 2 lbs I think ) at a damn traffic stop and his right hand was basically trying to sell small quantities to people the night before . "
He got popped with 60 pounds. It was'nt some routine traffic stop, the state police were investigating him based on someone else getting caught and talking. The state police had a tip he was coming back from xyz with weed. Why a supposed " made guy" with such a recognizable name in nj would be driving with a pack of firecrackers in his car, never mind 60 pounds of weed, is mind boggling. Just plain amateurish. He doesnt have an underling that could drive the shit for gods sakes ????
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
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Lay off Pizza.What kind of a joke is that,am talking about my parents,thast just bs pizza.You are a nasty person,i wish you dont correspnd with me anymore. I'm sorry, buddy. I was really just kidding. That's why I used those silly smileys. And that's good for your parents. I hope you'll be a professional one day, too  .
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
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Why a supposed " made guy" with such a recognizable name in nj would be driving with a pack of firecrackers in his car, never mind 60 pounds of weed, is mind boggling. Just plain amateurish. He doesnt have an underling that could drive the shit for gods sakes ???? See, to me that speaks volumes  . I think it's too easy to overestimate that "mob royalty" stuff. And WAAAY too easy to be predicting what kind of future these mopes are going to have. All it takes is one dummy with a big mouth, followed by one indictment, followed by one rat, and the entire family is in prison. Look at the Bascianos. Need I point out that ten years ago these people were on top of the world?
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Re: Mobsters from middle/upper classes
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Lay off Pizza.What kind of a joke is that,am talking about my parents,thast just bs pizza.You are a nasty person,i wish you dont correspnd with me anymore. I tried to lay off pizza too been losing weight but still getting cake na what I mean bull I mean alexanderarnsass
Yeah Your Gangster Alright!! Keep making excuses on why our country is in bad shape just admit your a hump already
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