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Re: Whitey Bulger-Informant or not? [Re: fergie] #858842
09/04/15 11:20 AM
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The point is that the FBI after Valachi say that La Cosa Nostra is a real organization,Hoover that since then ever said that the mob is a myth,used al the systems to destroy Cosa Nostra.

So sent in prison Tolomeo e other 3 innocent mobster,and used Bulger for destroy the Patriarca family.

That Bulger was a killer,drug dealer ecc wasn't important,everything for destroy the mafia.

the end justifies the means as said Machiavelli

Re: Whitey Bulger-Informant or not? [Re: fergie] #858846
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In terms of putting Italians away I go with the theory that Flemmi gave up most of the info on the North End guys. I'm sure Whitey wasn't really plugged in with them to know more than what they wanted him to know whereas Flemmi was in tight with those guys. If I recall correctly he turned down the button several times. They tolerated Whitey because of his LE sources, and eventually because he inherited Howie Winters debt.

I absolutely believe, however, that Whitey snitched on anyone in Southie who he perceived as a threat and didn't want to just kill for whatever reason. Pretty sure it was Pat Nee who Whitey sent on an armored car robbery and then tipped the Feds about it. I think he even sent Nee on the robbery with an empty gun.

As for Tameleo, Greco, Limone & Salvati, that was all Joe Barboza, who had personal grudges with those guys for various reasons.

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Re: Whitey Bulger-Informant or not? [Re: fergie] #858848
09/04/15 12:07 PM
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If I remember well, in the documentary "United States vs James Bulger" the defense tried to prove he wasn't an informant, while the FBI insisted he was. Because if he was an informant, the FBI could try to "justify" their giving him considerable freedom of action by saying "oh well, at least he was useful because he gave us information to put away criminals more dangerous than him". On the other hand, if he wasn't an informant, it makes the FBI look even more like shit, because that would mean they covered up and took bribes for a criminal who even didn't help them to make arrests and solve cases, meaning they would look like dirty/crooked ones, plain and simple, who did help Bulger purely for financial gain or personal favors.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: Whitey Bulger-Informant or not? [Re: fergie] #858850
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Well said Bones. It does seem Flemmi for sure gave up Angiulo and the other North End guys. I also agree on you about Whitey too, I definitely think he gave up Southie guys.

It seems the only other reason that Angiulo didn't kill Whitey was because of the 250k debt and it seems they did use them for certain things it seems.

And Bones you are right again on The Animal giving up those guys. Didn't Limone get some huge settlement? And the dude gets out and wants to be boss and is supposedly the man now. Talk about dedicated!

Re: Whitey Bulger-Informant or not? [Re: fergie] #858852
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It's right they call Limone "Chief CRAZY Horse"; he must really be crazy to get back into the life after all he has been through imo.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: Whitey Bulger-Informant or not? [Re: fergie] #858914
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