Not to jump off topic but You wonder why the genovese family remains the most powerful and successful of all the other 5 families. Correct If I am wrong but I don't think the genovese family has ever had a internal civil War or an official boss whacked out. Funny how two of the smaller families, the lucchese's and the colombo's were the wildest bunch in the late 80's early 90's.

Regarding Corallo appinting Luongo acting boss...According to the government, and I think this came up during one of Furnari´s appeals, Furnari met with other members of the Lucchese Family hierarchy to select successors. This was during the end of the Commission trials when the bosses already knew they were finished. According to D´Arco and two other sources, the meeting participants decided on a new administration and that Anthony Luongo would pose a threat to it and therefore should be killed. Casso and Amuso were reportedly instructed to murder Luongo, which they did. I don´t know if Luongo had been appointed acting boss prior to that meeting but it seems to me, judging by what the government claimed in that appeal, that Luongo was killed because he was not willing to accept the new administration. It also seems to me that Corallo very well knew, and actually approved of his murder.

That does make a lot of sense HK,but still those two must have been very powerfull at that time,couse a lot of capos were passed over for the top spot.

Well, he had the candy store on Gun Hill, he had the after hours on East 237th, and he had his storefront (which is probably the "club" you're referring to) next to the old A&M Bakery on White Plains Road. Plus, he had numbers spots dotted all over Wakefield, from Nereid Avenue all the way to Baychester. Mikey was a behemoth in numbers. He was an earner, an old school gangster, and he was NO RAT. Casso should get tortured for ordering the death of that old man. He wasn't a threat to anyone. It was all out of jealousy and greed. Casso wanted the dump in Pennsylvania for himself. There was NO OTHER REASON.


Stevie, Joey G, TJ, Blue Eyes, and virtually the entire Bronx Lucchese crew of that generation came up under Mikey Salerno or Johnny Peanuts (who was Mount Vernon based until he got murdered in his own house).

Ok i understand,thanks pizza for the info..what does really mean "after hour club",this probably is a dumb q,and am sorry about that,but as i picture it there's gambling going on in there(card games,poker,dice...).And it's all late into the night.Am i close?

Yeah, it's usually just an illegal bar that opens up on the weekends when the legal bars are forced to close because of the liquor laws, which in New York is at 4am.

There's usually gambling, and back before AIDS became rampant you could usually find a hooker or two (or so I've heard ).

Hehehe alright thanks pizzaboy,over here aids came a little later,so a hardworking man could enjoy a decent hooker well into the late 90s or so I'VE heard (being that i was like 5 then)

just my 2 cents yes I think tony ducks gave the order to kill lounge. read there started to become a rift between ducks and his underboss santoro. theres no way amuso and casso kill the guy when cris tic in there ear telling them there gonna be next up. plus I read there was a meetng between ducks and chin probably to tell him he steped down and to avenge big pauls hit. I read amuso was loungos driver and was in his crew, it always the closest guy to you to whack. think chris tic had ducks ear at the time and seen the Bronx guys trying a powerplay. wasn't tony ducks crown jewel was planting flags all over long island

I understand what you were trying to say now, and I agree. Do you think a lot of the blame should fall on Ducks for not keeping a better handle on things when he went away? The Luccheses certainly had enough old school guys that could have lead either by committee or as a singular boss.

According to Pistone he was single-handedly responsible for the Commission Case. All the bugs in Paulie's house, the Jag, the Palma Boys, the commission meeting photos, the testimony from other FBI agents and turncoats had nothing to do with it.

Absolutely. He was just as culpable as Amuso and Casso for giving birth to their reign of terror. And I have no problem believing that he was the one who ordered Buddy Luongo hit.

If Tom Mix didn't get wrapped into that RICO with the rest of that administration, he never would have let it happen.

mulberry, why do indivuals keep trying to take credit for the commission case. you've laid it out correctly in three posts, in the book by raab it clearly states no one person was responsible for the convictions, piston is posturing incorrectly again. doesn't this man know hes already used up his 15 minutes of fame. why cant anybody get it. it took many things to put together this high profile case, and pistons name is never mentioned in raabs {"the five families"} in relation to this case.

But Mix was tired of the bullshit and said to vic hey trix are for kids beotch

Looks like Furnari was released.

http://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/

whack jersy nuff said

He survived a 100 year sentence

In his book, Pistone himself states that the best evidence came from a tape recorder. Dude's got an ego, no doubt, but I think someone's putting words in his mouth in this case.

Too bad Pistone didnt have a longer neck, he would actually be able to blow himself in the literal sense.

The true power of that Family has always been with the Bronx and East Harlem factions. Buddy Luongo was named acting boss and with the Commission trial winding down, Vic and Gas chose an opportune time to remove him permanently. Ducks, Tom Mix and Christie Tic wouldn't have time to sort the mess so they made their move. The power shift to Brooklyn set that Family back 50 years. Also keep in mind they ousted Mariano Macaluso and Neil Migliore from the administration (underboss and acting consigliere) once they took over.

Corallo was the one on wiretap who said there was "no way" that their thing was going to last another 10 years. And this was in the '80s.