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Re: Roy Demeo questions
[Re: SimonChen]
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10/01/14 05:09 AM
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I know you r not making it up,you probably read it at the same place i did ;)Anyway the were all in the east new york/canarsie/ozone park are,so they had at least some buisness together(talk8ng bout Gotti crew),as did the Vario crew.Roy was actually going to kill Henry hill in 1980,but he sent his wife and she escaped.That scene from the movie was real,and it happend in front of the gemini lounge in brooklyn.I heard this from henry himself,he was talking about it in one shoh on yt.
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
[Re: SimonChen]
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10/01/14 09:12 AM
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In a interview with a reporter i dot know wich one was it,there is many.i am not making it up belive me he said it.Only if he lied about it,but the fact is he said it.He talk about his drawing at the end of it,how you can buy them on ebay.I think it was that one.I dont know what is so unbelivable,the bamboo was in canarsie too,the gemini was like 10 min away.Whay wouldnt that be the truth what henry said,but like i said i dont get the impression that he knew roy personally.
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
[Re: SimonChen]
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Agreed if Roy was connected to the lucchese s it was with the the very powerfull Vario crew.They probably met along the canarsie junkyurds where freddy dinome was working also,and it is known that he was in play with them.Paul Vario had a big chop shop,junkyard at ave D in Canarsie.And there was the bamboo lounge as i mentioned,and paulie was at the Geffkins bar and grill at flatlands ave.So there had to be some connection.I read that Danny grillo and Roy were into hijacking from JFK,there must have been another thing that they had in common.There some stuff about a guy named clyde brooks,i dont know who that guy was but he worked for Vario,he did cars or something like that.Anyway,he had a junkyard on ave D also.
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
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10/01/14 11:24 AM
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henry hill rode the skirts of jimmy burke, Im hearing the movie goodfellas was wrong. it wasn't jimmy burke who wanted to lure Karen hill into a warehouse but roy demeo. I always thought it was jinny burke. Even if it was just "artistic license" in the film, the point---and it was well taken---was that Jimmy Burke had no compunctions about killing women. And he didn't. The guy was a sociopath without a shred of human decency or an ounce of remorse in his entire body  .
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
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10/01/14 11:28 AM
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henry hill rode the skirts of jimmy burke, Im hearing the movie goodfellas was wrong. it wasn't jimmy burke who wanted to lure Karen hill into a warehouse but roy demeo. I always thought it was jinny burke. Even if it was just "artistic license" in the film, the point---and it was well taken---was that Jimmy Burke had no compunctions about killing women. And he didn't. The guy was a sociopath without a shred of human decency or an ounce of remorse in his entire body . Hill said he cried when he learned that DeSimone had been murdered.
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
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10/01/14 11:29 AM
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Don't be surprised if Henry made the part up about Roy intending to kill Karen. These types of guys are initially fairly truthful about their activity until they start making money on it, at which point their nose grows longer and longer. Hill was a born liar. And when you couple that with addiction, the fucking guy didn't even know when he was lying. He was one sick puppy in that regard.
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
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10/01/14 12:20 PM
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Maybe i wasn't clear,english isn't my first lango.I am sorry,but what i meant is that Burke called Henry to meet him,and that punk henry knewing he would probably get killed,sent his wife.(henry sent karen to meet burke insted of going himself)Burke met her in front of the gemini and told her to go inside.But she was a very smart women,far smarter than henry,she got away(i dont know how she got away but she did)How nobody saw this interview can't understand.I'll try to find it and post it.
Anyway thats what i meant the movie is half true
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
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10/01/14 12:31 PM
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I heard Jimmy burked cried when tommy got whacked. But didn't tommy try to rape Karen and because of it, Paul Vario told john ( gotti ) that it was Tommy who whacked both foxy jerothe and billy batts and that's really why Tommy got whacked ?? Th
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
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Hill was a born liar. And when you couple that with addiction, the fucking guy didn't even know when he was lying. He was one sick puppy in that regard. [/quote] pb youre right on about this hill, a despicable human being, he cannot tell the truth, on this video at 36 sec he says "jimmy wanted to meet him at the Gemini lounge", hill knew they would kill him, so the dog sends his wife,he didn't care about her at all, in this interview he is coked out of his mind. this g uy is a poorexcuse for a human being, he makes me sick, a twobit punk pass stoolie.
" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
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10/02/14 12:31 PM
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gotti was a loud mouth punk he didnt want any of demeo or his kru fact is gotti was a bottom feeder after scraps all the time he shudda got wacked earlier on before the castellano hit which made him even more of a bellend i lost all respect for the gambinos when he was in power nino gaggi all the way for me lol I might catch a lot of shit for this but I think Gotti was the luckiest mobster of all time. he wasnt an earner, he wasnt much of a hitter, he was a degenerate gambler but he was well liked by two of the most influential people in his family(Fatico and Neil). a few of the guys around him seemed to do well(Sal Ruggerio, Gene) but Gotti himself never seemed like much of a money maker. I'll give credit where credit is due tho, he managed to get all the right people together and made the power move of all power moves. he also convinced enough of the guys to accept him as boss so it wasnt all luck but Im convinced a lot of it was. way off topic but if Castellano had never gone to Sparks that faithful night and Gotti could have somehow bided his time until Paul went away during the Commission trial and survived, that would have made for some very interesting power grabs. but Ive always thought that had Paul survived that Paul would have flipped.
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
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10/02/14 12:53 PM
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Why do you think Paul would flipp,nobody of the other commision bosses flipped.Whay would Paul flipp Because he was soft....He thought he was a business man and forgot where he came from, that's my reason.
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
[Re: alexandarns]
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10/02/14 01:03 PM
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Why do you think Paul would flipp,nobody of the other commision bosses flipped.Whay would Paul flipp alexandarns,... im with you on this. I don't think paul would have flipped, he also had a good chance of beating the charges against him, as far as gotti goes, he was a disaster to the Gambino family. brought them down hard, only a moron would crave the lime light, he should have been killed right after he got out of the joint. actually, the gambinos were fools to make the dunce, look what happened to them.
" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
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10/02/14 01:09 PM
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I don't think paul would have flipped, he also had a good chance of beating the charges against him They convicted everyone in the Commission trial. What makes you think Paul would have been any different? Now I seriously doubt that he would have flipped. I don't even know where that comes from. But he most certainly would have died in prison, just like his co-defendants in that case.
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
[Re: Sal_Bronte]
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10/02/14 01:18 PM
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gotti was a loud mouth punk he didnt want any of demeo or his kru fact is gotti was a bottom feeder after scraps all the time he shudda got wacked earlier on before the castellano hit which made him even more of a bellend i lost all respect for the gambinos when he was in power nino gaggi all the way for me lol I might catch a lot of shit for this but I think Gotti was the luckiest mobster of all time. he wasnt an earner, he wasnt much of a hitter, he was a degenerate gambler but he was well liked by two of the most influential people in his family(Fatico and Neil). a few of the guys around him seemed to do well(Sal Ruggerio, Gene) but Gotti himself never seemed like much of a money maker. I'll give credit where credit is due tho, he managed to get all the right people together and made the power move of all power moves. he also convinced enough of the guys to accept him as boss so it wasnt all luck but Im convinced a lot of it was. way off topic but if Castellano had never gone to Sparks that faithful night and Gotti could have somehow bided his time until Paul went away during the Commission trial and survived, that would have made for some very interesting power grabs. but Ive always thought that had Paul survived that Paul would have flipped. i agree. Lets face it the main reason gotti got made let alone became a captain was because of neil dellacroce. He was a degenerate gambler who pissed away the crews earnings and they had to resort to drug dealing
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Re: Roy Demeo questions
[Re: njcapo35]
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10/02/14 01:26 PM
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Why do you think Paul would flipp,nobody of the other commision bosses flipped.Whay would Paul flipp Because he was soft....He thought he was a business man and forgot where he came from, that's my reason. I agree that Paul thought of himself as a businessman, thats why I think he would of flipped. he was a lot different from all the others, Paul was rich off of legit shit alone and had the means and motivation to just say fuck it, Im out. he didnt seem to have much interest or need for LCN at that point in his life.
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he called the Gemini Crew The Westies. had the interviewer not corrected him he would have went on about The Westies. I know good ol henry was off but he was a special kind of off during this.