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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #808753
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CCC discusses illegal video gambling machines.

http://www.bnd.com/2014/10/16/3457156_gr...6/195/&rh=1

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #808921
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Wiseguy/Ivy posted this on another forum. Good find.


Man charged with theft from Naperville area stores
Naperville Sun Times
October 10, 2014


A reputed, lower-level mobster is in jail as part of an ongoing investigation into alleged organized crime activity targeting retailers in Naperville and nearby communities.

Naperville police on Thursday would not comment on their involvement in the case, in which thousands of dollars worth of merchandise was allegedly stolen last year from at least nine area retail shops.

One of the suspects, convicted syndicated gambling operator Anthony Giannone, remained Thursday in DuPage County Jail on $250,000 bail. He was arrested Monday in northwest suburban Rosemont.

Giannone, 51, lives on the 2500 block of Sagamore Circle in Aurora. He faces trial on a felony charge of theft of stolen property worth more than $500 but less than $10,000, according to records on file in DuPage County Circuit Court in Wheaton.

A $250,000 warrant has been issued for the arrest of Giannone’s alleged accomplice, convicted burglar Vincent T. Forliano, 44, who reportedly last lived in Bloomingdale. Court records indicated he is to be tried on the same charge.

An assistant DuPage County state’s attorney on Monday filed a motion in the case. It read in part that charges were brought against Giannone and Forliano “as a result of a Naperville Police Department investigation into the activities of organized crime operating in the city of Naperville and other Chicago suburbs.”

Judge Robert G. Kleeman “reviewed and signed search warrants, for the search of the defendants’ (homes) and vehicles,” the motion continued. Evidence that Forliano and Giannone “are engaged in an ongoing, criminal enterprise was seized” during those searches, the motion declared.

Authorities contend the men “derive a substantial portion, if not all, of their income from the sale of stolen merchandise and other illegal activities,” according to the motion. “Despite the defendants’ claims to have legitimate employment, neither was observed working during the 10-month Naperville police investigation.”

A formal complaint filed by a Naperville police detective said Giannone and Forliano on Dec. 3 “knowingly obtained control over certain stolen property of numerous retail establishments.”

The allegedly victimized businesses included Ann Taylor, Bath & Body Works, Eddie Bauer, J. Jill, L.L. Bean, Men’s Wearhouse, Pottery Barn, Toys R Us and Williams-Sonoma. Court records revealed their losses totaled $3,297.78.

Several of those corporations have locations in or near downtown Naperville, although the detective’s narrative did not provide the addresses of the allegedly victimized stores.

Sgt. Bill Davis, the Naperville police public information officer, declined to comment on the matter.

“This case is an ongoing, active investigation, and no information can be released on it at this time,” Davis wrote Thursday in an email.

Giannone has been described in court documents as being an alleged, mob-connected bookmaker. Undercover FBI agents in 2001 placed wagers as part of their probe into an illegal gambling enterprise they believed Giannone was running.

Surreptitious tape-recordings made earlier that year by the FBI had Giannone plotting to kill a government informer. The witness “has got to go, because (he is) causing a really, really big problem now,” Giannone said on tape, according to federal files.

Giannone also threatened a client who had run up a gambling debt of more than $50,000. He implied he would beat the man badly, saying, “When I find you, every day it rains, you’re going to remember me.”

DuPage County court records showed Giannone in February 2003 was sentenced to two years in prison on a felony charge of syndicated gambling. He also was sentenced to six months in DuPage County Jail, for illegally having a pistol and a box of ammunition in his vehicle during a February 2000 traffic stop in Hanover Park, records indicated.

Forliano in early 1989 was charged with burglary and possession of burglary tools in DuPage County, according to records. He ultimately violated the terms of the probation he received in that case, and was sentenced in March 2004 to three years in prison.

Giannone reportedly is able to post his $25,000 bond, but prosecutors suspect he earned the money through criminal activity. A prosecution-requested “source of funds hearing” is set for Wednesday, after which Giannone might or might not be freed on bond prior to his trial.


http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/2014/10/09/man-charged-theft-naperville-area-stores/

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809103
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Giannone is married to Harry Alemans step granddaughter Dina, and Forlianos dad Tom is married to his stepdaughter Frankie. Alot of interbreeding in the outfit. Also cant remember who said it earlier in this thread, but Forliano is married to Rudys daughter.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809160
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I think Giannone is a Cicero guy who used to work for Vic Plescia and Joe Bonavalante back in the 1980s. I may be wrong about that however.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809172
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And the Forlianos have been around for a long time if I'm not mistaken. Slick,
didn't you an indictment regarding Giannone from a few years back?


ChiTown, dunno about you...but sounds like they were fencing the stolen goods..wouldn't you think?

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809226
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I don't think I found an indictment, just newspaper articles. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.sport.horse-racing/rFWQyVz7hZc http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2001-...orized-wiretaps

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: slick] #809247
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Originally Posted By: slick
I don't think I found an indictment, just newspaper articles. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.sport.horse-racing/rFWQyVz7hZc http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2001-...orized-wiretaps

Giannone copped a plea on the weed bust. I don't what happened with the gambling charges, they probably went away.

Man admits role in marijuana scheme: [North Sports Final Edition]
A Bartlett man pleaded guilty Monday in federal court to conspiring to run a large-scale marijuana operation.

Anthony Giannone, 38, who said in court he formerly worked as a newspaper pressman, admitted his involvement in the drug operation but disputed government claims that he purchased as much as 190 pounds of marijuana last year.

According to his plea agreement, Giannone used counter- surveillance techniques and coded language to thwart law enforcement, referring to marijuana that came from one source as "Reilly" or "O'Reilly."

Giannone agreed to cooperate with authorities, Assistant U.S. Atty. Mark Vogel said

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809275
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Has anyone read that C-1 book? I'm about halfway through and its quite good. Lots of good stories about guys from the heyday 50s/60s/70s.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809288
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I am waiting for it in the mail yeah looks good looking forward to reading it grin

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Faithful1] #809490
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It would sure appear to me that Fosco's right about Pranno. That other pic it's Rocco Potenza.


I didn't catch this earlier, but the book confused the photos. Rocco Pranno is the guy on the bottom. I don't know how to upload photos from my hard drive, but I have some that can prove it. Just tell me how to upload from my computer.

Just to add to this, in his book C-1 Inserra agrees with Faithful and identifies the picture at the top left as Rocco Potenzo and not as Pranno.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809491
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Oh and found this in my random googlings....there were a shit ton of Social Clubs in Addison apparently.


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-...ling-operations

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809493
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Yeah, the names are definitely reversed in that photo.


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: funkster] #809498
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Originally Posted By: funkster
Oh and found this in my random googlings....there were a shit ton of Social Clubs in Addison apparently.


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-...ling-operations


A lot of Sicilians immigrants are still coming into Addison and Bloomingdale to live. Most of these social clubs have moved locations but a ton of them still exist - mainly in strip malls that offer cheap leases. And they are gambling too.

This guy mentioned in that article - Joe Vicari - was shot and burned to death a few months after this 94 raid. A lot of these gambling busts and low-level murders were never connected to the Outfit through the media, so people really just have no idea what happened:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-11-05/news/9411050035_1_restaurant-police-fire

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809505
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Thanks for that find. Do you know anything further about the other two, Volpe and LaBalestra? I know I've heard LaBalestra's name associated with drugs and Elmwood...is Volpe related to Dominic? Who is he with?

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: funkster] #809508
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Originally Posted By: funkster
Has anyone read that C-1 book? I'm about halfway through and its quite good. Lots of good stories about guys from the heyday 50s/60s/70s.


I read it as soon as it came out. It's a great book for researchers, maybe not so much for general readers because it's very dry. Inserra did a great job for an ex-agent who is 90-something years old, and I for one am very glad that he put this out. I suggest we all leave positive feedback for his book on Amazon and other booksellers. He deserves to sell many copies.

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Originally Posted By: funkster
Just to add to this, in his book C-1 Inserra agrees with Faithful and identifies the picture at the top left as Rocco Potenzo and not as Pranno.


Told you so! LOL

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809510
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Joe still hasn't released the names of the guys in the photo.


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Faithful1] #809517
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Originally Posted By: Faithful1
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Has anyone read that C-1 book? I'm about halfway through and its quite good. Lots of good stories about guys from the heyday 50s/60s/70s.


I read it as soon as it came out. It's a great book for researchers, maybe not so much for general readers because it's very dry. Inserra did a great job for an ex-agent who is 90-something years old, and I for one am very glad that he put this out. I suggest we all leave positive feedback for his book on Amazon and other booksellers. He deserves to sell many copies.

Agreed. When I started it I was worried it'd become a cheesy Joe Pistone memoir with a lot a horseshit. He tells a ton of stories I bet most people don't know. Very good resource for people like Snakes who like to keep track of who was who in the Outfit. Snakes, I immediately thought of you when I was coming across guys whose names I didn't recognize.


Also, wonder what Fosco's deal is in general...he hasn't said much of anything, if anything at all, since the Nappi post.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: funkster] #809656
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Just Got the Book today Every One should get it For Sure grin

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Originally Posted By: funkster
Thanks for that find. Do you know anything further about the other two, Volpe and LaBalestra? I know I've heard LaBalestra's name associated with drugs and Elmwood...is Volpe related to Dominic? Who is he with?


I don't know Volpe but I've heard of "Pete" LaBalestra before too. No idea bout Volpe or how he is connected.

Addison/Bloomingdale is usually Cicero Crew territory. Bloomingdale is probably one of the main suburbs where these guys reside - the others being Westchester, Darien and Addison.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809671
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Side note about the book, there are a ton of good pictures that i've never seen before. There's a great one of Joe Nick wrestling with Vegas police after being arrested and refusing to sit down to let his pic get taken lol

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Yeah the cops Are Laughing at Him too lol Yeah a Good Book And Good Pics grin

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Shit now I have to get this thing too wink

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809936
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I've got a picture somewhere of Ferriola's mugshot from that same time, funk. He's sitting but super slouched and barely making the frame, ha ha.


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: pmac] #809942
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This thread been around forever is there today 28 inducted members in the Chicago lcn? More or less


LOL @ the "28" members. So where is Vena, who might just be the street boss now? Not even on the list. Calebrese didn't know dick other than the hits he pulled with his dad and the 26th/Chinatown crew. Vena wasn't even a made member when this chump flipped and now he's a hotshot? I don't beleive that for a second.

I have no clue how many are left or any recently made but crap like this from someone who's "made" shows you how insulated the individual crews must really be in the Outfit.

And I'm sure he's taking "orders" from Marco or Solly but those guys aren't on the street anymore.


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809947
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Eric, they never released a list. The "28 made members" came about in a September 2007, post-Family Secrets press conference. The way they framed the statement made it sound like they had 28 made men active and on the streets. I'm sure that they had intel on a lot of these guys before Nick flipped, not to mention the guy had been in jail for five years and off the streets for seven, so he probably didn't know a ton about who was in charge on the streets.

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #809949
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The list of 28 that has been referenced here and on other forums was completely based on estimates. They had a few guys on there that are probably not made (Joey's brother, Talarico, Joe DiFronzo) and a few that were dead for several years (Dom Basso, Shorty LaMantia) by the time the 28 statement was made.

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This may or may not open. Newspaper article featuring the late Mitch Mars talking about the Outfit and the number of made men and associates. Mars is referencing former FBI Agent Robert Grant.

28 made men 100 associates

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2245&dat=20070928&id=Av1RAAAAIBAJ&sjid=hjQNAAAAIBAJ&pg=5877,3405826

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #812465
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Panozzo not very good at talking in code. http://chicagosuntimes.com/news/repute-o...ne-sources-say/

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Jesus Christ what a moron. See you in 20.

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