Who your favorite chicago outfit member from back in the day or now ?

Mine is Sam "Wings" Carlisi. Low-key and ruthless.

my fav is Tony Accardo

Curly..

Yeah he was a top guy the brains behind the outfit

deniro...without a doubt. without Humphries getting them into unions, and his political clout. the outfit would have never risen above a street gang like the 42s.

I think you're taking it a bit too far. The Outfit had plenty of political fixers besides Camel. If it wasn't Camel doing the fixing, someone else would have done it. He was an important and capable guy, but the outfit was a power before he became a power.

well, could anyone but him get ricca out of prison by putting a fix in with a u.s. supreme court justice [tom clark ] now, that was slick, and coming up with the strategy to use the 5th amendment. this was all the hump.

Joseph "Ruffy" Lisciandrello

I never said he wasn't great at what he did, but the Outfit was bigger than Camel. He was one of the pieces of the puzzle. Just like the Genovese family continued to thrive after Lucky, Costello, and Lansky were booted. Costello was a huge political fixer in New York.

agreed mulberry. you are correct.

Paul Ricca

Sam Giancana hands down was John Gotti before gotti was gotti hung wit da rat pack dated phylis and I loved his arogange and givin da mifdle finger to ds feds

Antonio "handsome tony" Lumbrazo.

I know he was beyond violent and sick but its really hard not to pick a guy that goes into court carried by a gurney, wearing a bathrobe, wielding a megaphone and who once served as his own counsel, called himself as a witness and would as the jury if they'd ever seen elephants. despite all the completely awful things he did Im going Mad Sam all day.

Tony Spilotro comes in at a close second because he kind of looks like my father.

Ask any current or past Outfit member who the most respected boss of all time on the street was, one word will prevail: Mooney.

Guy was before & ahead of his time. No one did it like he did it.

Ask any current or past Outfit member who the most respected boss of all time on the street was, one word will prevail: Mooney.

Guy was before & ahead of his time. No one did it like he did it.

Yeah i like Sam Mooney Giancana too they sure did when he was making them millions. But when he sick & ill and most of his old crew was dead or in prison they whacked him nice guys A . Envy comes to mind Joey aiuppa and Jackie Cerone even Accardo was jealous even tho my Fav is Tony Accardo then Curly then Jackie Cerone and Gus alex

Al capone is my favorite, before he went to Alcatraz he already started the move in to hollywood, unions, and expanding gambling operations. Any vote for giacanna is a vote for capone, it's clear to see he acted just like capone, giacanna always admired capone.its a fact jake guzik was the brains of the outfit after capone got shipped to alcatraz, ricca didn't start coming into his own until after capone got shipped to alcatraz, capone called the shots from jail until 35-36, and frank nitti never got ricca permission to do anything

that outfit ran that town, if you doubt that, read [ the outfit ] by gus russo

Have to say Accardo, but I'm still learning about the Outfit.

Joey Aiuppa. Would love it if someone wrote a book about him.

Pete "little pee pee" prizzano

Then he ended up exiled to Mexico then came back just in time to catch a few bullets to the head

More like they saw him as a pain in the ass and attracting too much attention so they whacked him. It was like Hoffa coming back and thinking he could take over the teamsters.

Joe Lombardo had a hell of a story to tell. The Cicero boys were also very enterprising. The guys who largely kept their names out of the papers were also very interesting - guys like Mario Gabelli and Babe DeMonte. I also like the Rush Street guys like Joe Arnold and Joe DiVarco.

Then he ended up exiled to Mexico then came back just in time to catch a few bullets to the head [/quote] O r u forgetting Giancana setting up a gambling empire all over the world and in the middle east while he was supposedly exiled I dont rem tony accardo rubbing elbows wit da kennedys and so on even though tony was a big shot call me a conspiracy theorist just so happens he was going be infront of the jfk assaination commitee outfit didnt whack him trafficante or da powers to be did but u think way u want

Would Frank LaPorte (sp) in Chicago Heights be someone who avoided the spotlight ?I believe you mentioned in an earlier post that you read "The Boys In Chicago Heights." It seems to me that those guys somehow managed to avoid publicity, at least until the chop shop wars started. I could be wrong, but you don’t see too much info on some of those fellows. Matt Luzi did a great job on the book (IMO).

jipjones, regarding your post. It sure seems funny that both johnny roselli, and sam giancana were whacked when they were both scheduled to appear before congress about the cia- mafia link to cuba. indeed, behind closed door hearings, isn't that strange.

Giancana was in a trap and there was no good options for him. He had spent a year in jail for refusing to answer questions before the grand jury. He knew he was going to be called back when the grand jury reconvened. He had four choices (IMO):
- talk and the Outfit would kill him. He knew the rules about talking.
- refuse to talk and go to jail.
- try to "skate" around the questions and be evasive. This would be really tough because the prosecution had tapes from the Armory Lounge and Celano's that recorded Giancana talking about killing people, etc.Giancana had immunity but he would be forced to implicate others.
- get out of Chicago and the U.S. This was his choice because the other three were no good.

He returned to Chicago when Robert Kennedy and et al pressured the Mexican govt to kick him out. Keep in mind that Giancana still had a representative in Chicago while he was in Mexico. Butch Blasi was his rep. I'm not sure how long his involvement was recognized, but he was still involved for some period of time. He made an enormous amount of money during his time in Mexico, but refused to share any of the money with the Outfit.

Once he returned to Chicago in '74 his power was greatly diminished. When he agreed to testify, his days were numbered. I believe he was only required to answer questions about Outfit activity that occurred after 1972. He testified four times and was preparing for a fifth appearance when he was murdered. As far as I know his testimony is sealed and has not been made public. So is Phylis McGuire's testimony.

I don't think anyone has reported the results of what transpired behind closed doors in front of the grand jury.