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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
[Re: DanteMoltisanti]
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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The good old Press of Atlantic City used his Galloway Township house, I posted the article above. Well the Press has not had a mob story in a while. Yes with the address the reporters are bad .I don't think he was in Galloway Twp. 13 years or so. He was in a place where the houses started in the 800,000.00 range back in 05 ish when he got it . That was in E.H.T. they have good schools there. Dam guy was on that phone every time I laid eyes on him...
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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He got the sentence because of his name and record.
MightyHealthy is right though, to add some perspective not ONE charge has been brought to ANYBODY from the 08 meltdown.
Not one.
And Bernie is the poster boy for how white collar crime is NOT prosecuted. Its a miracle he was ever charged and convicted and certainly zero thanks to authorities. Evidence of his fraud was brought to the SEC in : '99,00,01,05 AND 07 and was ignored. The ONLY way he was caught was when he was on the verge of default to clients in 08 and he confessed to his sons who turned him in. He owed $65 billion. His accountants were a three man team in a strip mall.
So don't say Wall Street or white collar is prosecuted, because it isn't.
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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Bernard Ebbers, Marc Dreir, Samuel Cohen, Allen Stanford, Tom Petters, etc the list goes on. You can brush off Bernie likes it nothing but some people are essentially doing life sentences for white collar crimes.
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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Nick Jr had it coming. If it wasnt this case he would of just caught another. 30 years is pretty steep though. But i doubt they wanted a Scarfo running the streets and committing crimes any longer then he already was doing it. They finally got the chance to lock him up and throw away the key and they gave it to him big time. And watch, when he is in his 70's and gets released, he will probably get caught up in something again. Its the life he knows, he will never change.. its a shame really.
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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damn usually white collar crimes are the way to go.. can steal a ton and not get too fucked..
jr was destined to end up in this position though.. its sad but its the truth.. hope sr's happy that his kid lived up to his standards.. doing life pretty much..
jr seemed really smart surprised he wasn't more below the radar.. but then gain when your scarfos son and a made man youre doomed. He did seem smart in some regards, incredibly stupid in others. He was computer savvy, used encryption, and basically robbed without a gun But his laundering and flaunting of the money wasnt too bright Million dollar boats, houses, cars...gonna raise a few eyebrows. But 30 for a non violent offense?
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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Bernard Ebbers, Marc Dreir, Samuel Cohen, Allen Stanford, Tom Petters, etc the list goes on. You can brush off Bernie likes it nothing but some people are essentially doing life sentences for white collar crimes. "Some people", the majority of them aren't. There are rich, lesser known, heads of companies and banks who get essential slaps on the wrist for similar crimes. And they arent all highly publicized like those cases mentioned, they're mentioned like once or twice and then passed over. Besides the argument is moreso that he was sentenced this way because of his name. It shouldn't be "some people". Everyone shoukd be sentenced the same according to there crime, youre cheating people out of life savings, credit, college funds, etc. Yet we see that this isn't the case. A guy is given a 30 year sentence because his name is Nicodemo Scarfo. Whereas its proven that someone convicted of the exact same crime, with a lesser known name is almost guaranteed a lighter sentence, in some country club prison program. And looking at that list, only half of those listed got 20 years or more. And in all the cases they extorted between the 100-500 million mark. Scarfo &, Pellulo according to the indictment only got about 12 million. There's a clear discrepancy here.
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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Bernard Ebbers, Marc Dreir, Samuel Cohen, Allen Stanford, Tom Petters, etc the list goes on. You can brush off Bernie likes it nothing but some people are essentially doing life sentences for white collar crimes. "Some people", the majority of them aren't. There are rich, lesser known, heads of companies and banks who get essential slaps on the wrist for similar crimes. And they arent all highly publicized like those cases mentioned, they're mentioned like once or twice and then passed over. Besides the argument is moreso that he was sentenced this way because of his name. It shouldn't be "some people". Everyone shoukd be sentenced the same according to there crime, youre cheating people out of life savings, credit, college funds, etc. Yet we see that this isn't the case. A guy is given a 30 year sentence because his name is Nicodemo Scarfo. Whereas its proven that someone convicted of the exact same crime, with a lesser known name is almost guaranteed a lighter sentence, in some country club prison program. And looking at that list, only half of those listed got 20 years or more. And in all the cases they extorted between the 100-500 million mark. Scarfo &, Pellulo according to the indictment only got about 12 million. There's a clear discrepancy here. Yeah for the amount, it is certainly out of whack. I don't think he should have been looking at anything more than 15.
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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But 30 for a non violent offense?
What about Long John's son? Life for 1st offense AND non-violent?
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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But 30 for a non violent offense?
What about Long John's son? Life for 1st offense AND non-violent? that is another sad case for pot!
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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But 30 for a non violent offense?
What about Long John's son? Life for 1st offense AND non-violent? that is another sad case for pot! There is a whole lot of people that hold power and should go out of there way and use it right. Everyone is doing something ,even if it's cheating on taxis. Everyone is doing something. (not saying dealing weed) but just in general we all live in a glass house . Well at least the one hundred people I hang with ...
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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[quote=Rocco1313]Bernard Ebbers, Marc Dreir, Samuel Cohen, Allen Stanford, Tom Petters, etc the list goes on. You can brush off Bernie likes it nothing but some people are essentially doing life sentences for white collar crimes. "Some people", the majority of them aren't. There are rich, lesser known, heads of companies and banks who get essential slaps on the wrist for similar crimes. And they arent all highly publicized like those cases mentioned, they're mentioned like once or twice and then passed over. Like who? You keep saying this but who is stealing millions of dollars and getting light sentences? Besides the argument is moreso that he was sentenced this way because of his name. It shouldn't be "some people". Everyone shoukd be sentenced the same according to there crime, youre cheating people out of life savings, credit, college funds, etc. Yet we see that this isn't the case. A guy is given a 30 year sentence because his name is Nicodemo Scarfo. Whereas its proven that someone convicted of the exact same crime, with a lesser known name is almost guaranteed a lighter sentence, in some country club prison program.
And looking at that list, only half of those listed got 20 years or more. And in all the cases they extorted between the 100-500 million mark. Scarfo &, Pellulo according to the indictment only got about 12 million. There's a clear discrepancy here. Nicky Jr is a career criminal, a made member with multiple felonies to his name. That matters alot, do you not understand how that would factor in big time when it comes to sentencing? The only reason there fraud was only 12 million is because they got caught fast which is typical of Nicky Jr. Also the whole country club prison thing is pretty much bullshit.
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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[quote=Rocco1313]Bernard Ebbers, Marc Dreir, Samuel Cohen, Allen Stanford, Tom Petters, etc the list goes on. You can brush off Bernie likes it nothing but some people are essentially doing life sentences for white collar crimes. "Some people", the majority of them aren't. There are rich, lesser known, heads of companies and banks who get essential slaps on the wrist for similar crimes. And they arent all highly publicized like those cases mentioned, they're mentioned like once or twice and then passed over. Like who? You keep saying this but who is stealing millions of dollars and getting light sentences? Besides the argument is moreso that he was sentenced this way because of his name. It shouldn't be "some people". Everyone shoukd be sentenced the same according to there crime, youre cheating people out of life savings, credit, college funds, etc. Yet we see that this isn't the case. A guy is given a 30 year sentence because his name is Nicodemo Scarfo. Whereas its proven that someone convicted of the exact same crime, with a lesser known name is almost guaranteed a lighter sentence, in some country club prison program.
And looking at that list, only half of those listed got 20 years or more. And in all the cases they extorted between the 100-500 million mark. Scarfo &, Pellulo according to the indictment only got about 12 million. There's a clear discrepancy here. Nicky Jr is a career criminal, a made member with multiple felonies to his name. That matters alot, do you not understand how that would factor in big time when it comes to sentencing? The only reason there fraud was only 12 million is because they got caught fast which is typical of Nicky Jr. Also the whole country club prison thing is pretty much bullshit. Pelullo wasn't made and didnt have the same history as Nicky Jr convictions wise (as far as I know, I could be wrong) and he got hit with the same sentence.
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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Johnny J.P. is next and he is thinking 5 years . This is the first time he has ever been out of his bed.He has never done time in his life.He was a geek type till he hit his twenty's so this will hit him hard in his mid 50's I guess he is not going to like this...
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Re: Scarfo Jr - Pelullo fraud trial
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I told you these guys were gonna get scorched two years ago. He and the family totally expected that Well, you understand the system. It should be the same for everyone. But that's a fucking fairytale. If your name is infamous and makes a case, they're going to try to flip you twice as hard. And when they can't, they see to it that the judge sees the offers that you turned down. The kids are the ones that are the real losers as always. No doubt about that. It's sad.
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