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Re: merlino hearing delayed
[Re: DanteMoltisanti]
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Its no secret, nicodemo and dom have been flipping houses for awhile now
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Re: merlino hearing delayed
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I can understand the desire to "get him" but if you can't do it by building a sound case based on solid investigation and evidence, scratching for anything that sticks looks weak. If the feds think he's still dirty, then do your due diligence and build a case. I'm starting to think the Feds are playing this one close to the hip until after the Nicodemo trial. If they convict him, then manage to flip him after the fact, they're probably thinking that he can put a couple of old murders on Merlino. I just can't see them wasting all this time and money on a parole violation that can only get the guy another year or two in prison. I think the other shoe is going to drop early next year (after the Nicodemo trial). Mark my words. Nicodemo will not flip
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Re: merlino hearing delayed
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I can understand the desire to "get him" but if you can't do it by building a sound case based on solid investigation and evidence, scratching for anything that sticks looks weak. If the feds think he's still dirty, then do your due diligence and build a case. I'm starting to think the Feds are playing this one close to the hip until after the Nicodemo trial. If they convict him, then manage to flip him after the fact, they're probably thinking that he can put a couple of old murders on Merlino. I just can't see them wasting all this time and money on a parole violation that can only get the guy another year or two in prison. I think the other shoe is going to drop early next year (after the Nicodemo trial). Mark my words. Nicodemo will not flip I never said he would. I'm just stating what I think the Feds are up to. They have an end game in mind here. They're not wasting all this time, money and manpower to put this guy away for two years on a violation. If that's all they had in mind they would have violated him three years ago after the first alleged meeting.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: merlino hearing delayed
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Pb, i agree. The feds are out to get joey. You make some excellent statements. They're dirty. I was just saying nicodemo will not flip. The only way they get joey, is if galati flips. But i dont see that happening either
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Re: merlino hearing delayed
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Fiore is suspected of having ties to the New Orleans mob families Yea LaLou this quote right here is a flat out joke. NOLA mob "families"? There is not even a "family" there, much less more than one. And yet when a hack reporter writes nonsense like this, the fanboys come screaming out of the woodwork: I told you so. I told you so. I told you so. It's very telling that post-Katrina there wasn't a peep about mob involvement in regards to the cleanup. In Marcello's day, they would have exploited that tragedy for all it was worth. Because that's what wiseguys do. And that speaks volumes in regards to mob activity in New Orleans .
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Re: merlino hearing delayed
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10/16/14 10:47 AM
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It's very telling that post-Katrina there wasn't a peep about mob involvement in regards to the cleanup. In Marcello's day, they would have exploited that tragedy for all it was worth. Because that's what wiseguys do. And that speaks volumes in regards to mob activity in New Orleans . You are VERY CORRECT there. Marcello would have made millions if not more off Katrina. Hell even the Gagliano guy that everyone is foaming at the mouth over was just blocks away from the 17th Street Canal breach and yet nothing was done. But because him and some other guy was going to pop someone everyone goes nuts claiming there IS a family there. No, those two dumbasses got caught simply wanting to kill someone. Doesn't mean there is a family there by any means. All the crime in NOLA is run by the blacks and the city government.
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Re: merlino hearing delayed
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10/16/14 11:05 AM
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Yep I think he went in last month for his 10 year bid in one of the Federal country clubs I imagine. I never heard "where" he had to report.
Thought we were coming to Monroe but we never got the call. Alabama Power screwed us, they called and put us on standby so nobody else could snatch us up and then decided not to use us. Pisses me off! We setting up power at out camp in the "Black Belt", your the guys to call right? I remember the lady told us something about Alabama Power, we have to get a pole set in and everything.
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Re: merlino hearing delayed
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10/16/14 01:14 PM
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We setting up power at out camp in the "Black Belt", your the guys to call right? I remember the lady told us something about Alabama Power, we have to get a pole set in and everything. I'm not with AP though, through a contractor (and various contractors at the same time). Yea most of the time you will have to pay extra to get them out there since the camp won't be lived in all year. If they don't get their investment like a house that someone lives in 24/7/365 they will charge you extra to come out and set poles and string wire. Just depends on "how far" they have to do everything from the nearest line.
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Re: merlino hearing delayed
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And Nicodemo isn't as tough as some people make him out to be, he folded to the Pagans back in the day
Merlino, Pagans At Odds Cycle Gang Peeved At Him Over Conduct Of Mob Aide
by Kitty Caparella, Daily News Staff Writer POSTED: October 05, 1995 Mob underboss Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino is in trouble again - this time with the outlaw Pagan motorcycle gang.
Only Joey didn't do anything.
Not personally. But as underboss, he's considered responsible for the behavior of his associates.
The trouble started when a rising star in the Merlino organization, Anthony Nicodemo, 24, of Iseminger Street near Oregon Avenue, was mouthing off about the Pagans in the Philadium, a well-known sports bar on Packer Avenue near 16th Street on Sept. 25, according to police, mob and Pagan sources.
One witness told a police source that Nicodemo had been drunk and complaining about a business transaction between the Merlino gang and the Pagans. The source said he had called the Pagans names, like "punks."
"He was talking and saying things he shouldn't be saying," said a Pagan source.
Nicodemo was so loud that the bartenders were getting nervous. One even tried to reach Merlino to get Nicodemo out of there, the police source said. A Pagan "family member" stood up for the outlaw bikers and confronted Nicodemo, a sometime bodyguard for Merlino, sources said. What happened next is unclear. The Pagan source claimed Merlino associates had beaten up the ''Pagan family member," but that could not be confirmed.
In any case, Nicodemo left.
The next day, "Gorilla," the Pagans' sergeant-at-arms, and a couple of bikers took up the matter, sources said.
The bikers allegedly kidnapped - or "scooped up" - Nicodemo. He allegedly was beaten and pistol-whipped for showing "disrespect" to a ''family member," sources said.
He was forced to kneel on his hands and knees and apologize, sources said. He was crying and begging for his life, a police source said.
"If it was a Pagan (member), it would be a lot worse, God forbid," the Pagan source said.
This act of humiliation was meant to teach Nicodemo a lesson and send a warning to the Merlino gang.
"I thought I was dead . . . I thought they were going to kill me," Nicodemo was later overheard telling associate Billy DiPenna at 13th and Porter streets.
In fact, the sergeant-at-arms gave Nicodemo a message for his boss: Merlino was to apologize to the Pagans by 8 p.m. Friday.
The deadline passed. No apology.
Last Saturday, 17 thunderous Pagan motorcycles roared onto Passyunk Avenue near Broad Street, followed by a couple of carloads of Pagans to confront the mob underboss on his own turf, police and Pagans said.
Wearing their "colors" - insignia on the back of their jackets - and carrying chains, the Pagans stormed inside the Avenue Cafe, an espresso bar owned by Merlino and where his gang hangs out.
Merlino wasn't there.
People in the store scattered. The bikers ordered a Merlino associate to call him to the cafe, a source said.
After what seemed to the Pagans like "a half-hour of waiting," police showed up at 5:20 p.m. and escorted the Pagans out of the store - through a crowd of onlookers.
An hour after the show of force, the Pagan source said, the outlaw bikers received an apology via a Merlino messenger. But the Pagan source said everything right now with the Merlino gang was "on hold."
What does Merlino have to say?
"He doesn't know anything about it," said Merlino's lawyer Joseph Santaguida.
Neither did Nicodemo last night.
"I don't know anything about that. I just wanted to know what you were calling about," Nicodemo said.
Authorities say Merlino associates have been mouthing off, beating people up and disrupting illegal activities - gambling and otherwise - for years in South Philadelphia.
Just ask crime boss John Stanfa.
He and seven co-defendants are on trial in federal court on murder racketeering charges, in part because of an ongoing war with the Merlino mob.
Stanfa is charged with ordering murder contracts on the Merlino gang for the same reason as the angry Pagans: a lack of respect and interference with business.
This week, the Pagans had a message for Stanfa: "It's Merlino they don't like, not Stanfa," a Pagan source said.
This is the second time in five weeks Merlino appears to be repeating actions of his father.
On Aug. 27, the 33-year-old underboss was arrested on drunken- driving charges, just as his father had been 11 years ago.
In fact, jailed ex-boss Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo demoted Merlino's father, Salvatore "Chuckie" Merlino, from underboss because of his drunkeness.
Now, young Merlino is tangling with the Pagans, just as his dad did in April 1982.
That's when the elder Merlino, then underboss, ran over Pagan member John ''Egyptian" Kachabalian, who was sitting on his Harley Davidson outside a South Philadelphia restaurant.
"No one can draw blood from a Pagan and think they can get away from it," former Pagan James "Jimmy D" DiGregorio testified regarding the matter.
The Pagans then shot up Merlino's house.
At the time, ranking mob members were so worried, they tried to send Merlino out of town because they feared further retaliation from the Pagans.
The matter was eventually settled after then-mob associate Raymond "Long John" Martorano, who was then in the drug business with the Pagans, offered to break Merlino's arms and legs, but instead paid $5,000 for the destroyed bike, DiGregorio testified.
During the 1980s, mobster Harry "the Hunchback" Riccobene was also in the
drug business with the Pagans, manufacturing and delivering illicit methamphetamine in the area.
After a series of bikers' convictions, the mob took over the meth business.
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Re: merlino hearing delayed
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10/17/14 06:17 AM
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Hog Heaven 5mob, Pagans Cozy Merlino Invites Biker Leader To Party For Daughter's Christening
by Stu Bykofsky, Daily News Columnist POSTED: March 23, 1998 Among the princes, dukes, barons and other allegeds attending last night's christening party for Sophia Merlino, there was a Gorilla.
All but stealing the show from the Usual Suspects of Mob Royalty was bulky South Philadelphian Steven ``Gorilla'' Montevergine, a high-ranking member of the outlaw Pagan motorcycle gang. His dapper two-piece, charcoal-gray suit hid the tattoos on his forearms that identify him as a Pagan, and as a Pagan leader.
The arrival of the 5-foot-10, 260-pound Gorilla by limo at the invitation-only party surprised many observers because there has been a history of animosity between the tattooed Pagans and the faction of the mob loyal to reputed underboss Joseph ``Skinny Joey'' Merlino.
What has now developed, the Daily News has learned exclusively, is an unholy alliance between the two local crime organizations, according to a street source familiar with Pagan activities and an organized crime detective who prefers to call it ``a marriage of convenience.''
The alliance, both agree, is a result of Merlino lacking serious muscle. He's down to a half-dozen trusted lieutenants, according to a local Mafia associate.
Merlino reportedly is on the hit list of New York's infamous Genovese crime family, which put out a $500,000 contract for the deaths of Merlino, reputed mob capo Steve Mazzone, and perhaps another associate, according to published reports and confirmed by law enforcement officials. (When informed of the reported contract by Fox 29, Merlino wisecracked, ``For $500,000, I'd kill myself.'')
The Philly mob answers to New York, and the New York mob also has turned to bikers - the Hell's Angels - for ``muscle,'' according to sources. Since the Angels and the Pagans are natural enemies, the Pagans' alliance with Merlino can be understood as ``the enemy of my enemy is my friend.''
Hell's Angels have moved east from their traditional stronghold in California and the Pacific coast and lately have been seeking a foothold in the Philadelphia region.
The most recent bad blood between the local mobsters and bikers can be traced to 1995, when Anthony Nicodemo, then a rising star in the Merlino organization, mouthed off about the Pagans - calling the gang a word that sounds like ``wussies'' - in the Philadium Tavern, a sports bar frequented by bikers (and the occasional Flyer) on Packer Avenue near 16th Street.
The next day, Gorilla, then the Pagans' sergeant-at-arms, and a couple of bikers, snatched Nicodemo off the street, took him to the Southern High field on Bigler at 11th and beat the snot out of him for showing ``disrespect.'' He was forced to kneel and apologize, sources said.
Gorilla gave Nicodemo a message for his boss: Merlino was to apologize for his underling's big mouth - or else.
When the deadline passed, 17 Pagan motorcycles and a couple of Pagan-stuffed cars roared up to the Avenue Cafe on Passyunk Avenue, then owned by Merlino and used as a mob hangout.
Their intent was to whip Merlino on his own turf, but the lucky espresso shop owner was not there.
He later sent a messenger with an apology, it was reported.
Bad blood between the Mafia and bikers is nothing new.
In 1982, Skinny Joey's father, Salvatore ``Chuckie'' Merlino had a run-in - literally - with the Pagans.
The elder Merlino, then reputed underboss for Nicodemo ``Little Nicky'' Scarfo, ran over Pagan member John ``Egyptian'' Kachabalian, who was sitting on his Harley outside a South Philly restaurant.
The Pagans shot up Merlino's house in payback. Further retribution was feared.
Mob associate Raymond ``Long John'' Martorano, who was then in the drug business with the Pagans, offered to break Merlino's arms and legs to settle the matter, but the Pagans instead accepted $5,000 as compensation for the destroyed bike.
The current Pax Pagan is in part due to a war brewing between the Hell's Angels and the Pagans.
``They're enemies and they always have been,'' according to the source close to the Pagans, who clearly don't want a two-front war with the Mafia and the Angels.
While the Pagans claim Philadelphia, they have not been active in defending their turf - until now, said the source.
``You'll be seeing a lot of Pagans in Philadelphia, especially South Philadelphia. They are sending a message to the Hell's Angels. The message is `Stay . . . out of Philly.' What is coming down the road, is coming,'' he said.
When the Pagans talk ``territory,'' they're not talking real estate. They're talking bookmaking, drugs, prostitution.
``Hell's Angels are making a major push here for recruitment, to take over the drug trade and war with the Pagans,'' agreed the organized crime detective.
``Hell's Angels have the upper hand as far as organization, nationally,'' said the cop. The battle is over ``the oil,'' which is what they call P2P, a chemical used in the manufacture of methamphetamine.
``Most of the oil is smuggled in from the Far East. The whole war is over oil.''
With the Hell's Angels and the Pagans locked in combat for control of the territory, ``It's like dynamite and a match,'' said the cop.
Mix the Mafia into the equation and it becomes nitroglycerine.
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Re: merlino hearing delayed
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10/17/14 08:52 AM
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I know people have said that he won't flip but, flipping just is not the same as it was in the past.
This is an interesting read. Secret Justice: Criminal Informants and America’s Underground Legal System Although it is almost invisible to the public, the use of criminal informants is everywhere in the U.S. justice system. From street corners to jails to courthouses to prisons, every year the government negotiates thousands of deals with criminal offenders in which suspects can avoid arrest or punishment in exchange for information. These deals typically take place off-the-record, subject to few rules and little oversight. While criminal informants—sometimes referred to as “snitches”—can be important investigative tools, using them has some serious costs: informants often continue to commit crimes, while the information they provide is infamously unreliable. Taken together, these facts make snitching an important and problematic aspect of the way America does justice. Read More: https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/201...d-legal-system/
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