Nope. You know what else? We've won four Super Bowls in that time frame.

I get your frustration, though. You're not much older than I am, MC. We're spoiled, is all .

Just proves that you don't need to draft an elite RB or WR to win it all. I wouldn't call Phil Simms, Eli Manning, nor Hostetler elite. But they all won rings as Giants QBs. And that's the most important position in football, perhaps in all of sports.

And LT was one of the most dominant defensive players to ever don a uniform. So I don't feel bad for the Giants not landing an elite RB or wideout in the draft.

On a separate note, I saw a great Tweet within the past week. It said something about how the Jets are terrible, but not Rich Kotite terrible.

How about the Browns trading Manziel to the Jets for their #1 last year?

EDIT: Uh, that should be "next" year

He'd fit right in at the Hofstra freakshow next summer, that's for sure .

Amani Toomer and Hakeem Nicks were pretty decent wideouts. Jeremy Shockey was a good tight end despite his attitude. But as far as a true number one receiver you guys are right.

No doubt the Giants won Super Bowls without elite players at the "skill" positions. They did it with excellent offensive and defensive lines, and that is too often overlooked. This year they have neither. So with mediocre talent and NO elite players.....8-8 would be a good year.

I would like to see them have a receiver the caliber of Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Michael Irvin, or a running back like OJ Simpson, Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton. They have had some good players; yes-Amani Toomer and Jeremy Shockey or go back to Mark Bavaro and running backs, Joe Morris, Tiki Barber. Its seems their star players are the punters Sean Landeta, Jeff Feagles.

mary cas, iv'e been reading your posts and you sure know your giants. but, I see you're disappointed in them. any chance of making a seattle seahawks fan out of you?


super bowl champions 2014

Hey the giants had great wide receivers like Lionel Emanuel, Phil Mconkey, Dave megget and the touchdown maker Stephen baker!

Go GMEN

Lawrence. Of. The. Meadowlands

Bavaro was my favorite growing up. Good ole 89.

Funny story. The password to get into my sons school is 7055

I remembered by correlating it to Leonard Marshall and Gary Reasons.

I had a 1986 and 1990 program growing up and I memorized everyone's number.

Not a program. One of the "year book" things. I forget what their called. Don't care enough to google it right now but I think you get the picture.

Blasphemy! Too many years invested in the Giants. When I was 8 years old I had a #16 jersey (not a Giant jersey) and I WAS FRANK GIFFORD.

A little Seahawk story.
My cousin grew up in Fairlawn NJ and played QB for St. Lukes in Hohokus, which closed and he then went to St. Mary's in Rutherford, and he was a Joe Namath fan. He went to Montana State U and played QB there, married a girl from Spokane, Wash area and became a teacher out there. As a part time job, he was a sideline ballboy for the Seahawks (late 70s, early 80s). When they were on TV we would scour the sidelines to catch a glimpse of him throwing in a ball to the refs. But the cool thing was...he used to throw passes to Steve Largent in warm-ups.

great story, dave krieg was qb then I believe. Largent is a legend in seattle. and, your cousin was there when chuck knox was coaching , I believe.

well, the hawks have their problems, and your giants come to seattle sunday. poor giants!

Giants 60, Seattle 10.

now, mary, whatever you are smoking may take you to magical dimensions, however, come sunday the final score,

will..... awaken you from wandering around in your dreams.

I know you miss frank Gifford. but, sorrrrrrrrrrry.
hawks 47 n.y. 3 poor giants!

But win or lose, at least the Giants get to come home to the New York Metro Area. The Seahawks are still stuck in Washington State. Because as the whole world knows, if the United States needed an enema, they'd stick it in the Pacific Northwest.

But to be fair I do like the Seahawks. Love him or hate him, Pete Carroll's a winner.

that's a nice thing to say. I like where I live up in the woods it's peaceful, and quiet, I can look out my window and see five little snowy topped mountains on a sunlit day. and I go down to a little creek checking to see if there are any little

gold specks from the mountain behind, thank you for your kind words about the pacific northwest, but, keep the enema.

I can't wait to see the Giant game today. No offense Binnie but I hope they clobber your Seattle Seahawks. They NEED this win BADLY!!!

A.G. sorry, hon. but the giants got about as much chance against my hawks as you would have if.............

you could walk up on a rainbow!

No need to apologize. I know the Giants are not looking too hot this season. We got to see what happens. I think it will be a great game not a one-sided game like you say cuz the GIANTS want this WIN badly.

I don't walk on rainbows I only find the pot of gold at the end of them...

How the hell did the JETS beat the Steelers? When I saw that Pitt was only a 4.5 point favorite I had a feeling it'd be a close game.

During their SB years, my Steelers beat the teams they were supposed to beat. But, over the past few years they've been losing to those teams. How does Ben go from 12 touchdowns over two games to just one?

oli, the defense knows what hes going to do now. and they adjust to his offense. if you put the heat on him [ pass rushers ] he will come undone.

Bills had that game too classic buffalo

Sorry to upset any of my Chicago pals in here....but the Bears are really shit this year.......

....at least the G-men had the lead at the half AG, looks like a dismal year for us fans. One bright light - Odell Beckham. He could be the big star the Giants have been missing.

Binnie, good luck to the S-hawks. That Lynch is a beast and Wilson has all round talent.

yogi. that is a very old, and proud franchise, you can rest assured their are going to be major changes in Chicago. if you are a fan, take heart you can only get better.

I love my Bears and am the first to admit that they were embarrassed by the Packers last night. My grandfather worked for the Chicago Park District for years. His office was in Soldier Field so my heart is sick with this year's team. For those who don't know... The Bears or the Halas/McCaskey family does not own Soldier Field. It is a Chicago Park District facility. In fact, more Bears games have been played in Wrigley Field than any other venue.
I'm going to go to my happy place now. Ditka, Ditka, Sausage, Sausage...

mark, yeah, man you had great teams. im a lot older than you, and, I used to go to the L.A. coliseum and see them when they came to town, they have a magnificent history.

mark, you should have seen one of the great bear running backs of all time , he was as good as walter peyton.

gale sayers.

Heads are going to roll in the Bears organization, Mark. No other way to say it. It'll start about an hour after the season ends. Guaranteed.

Sayers was magnificent. If only his injuries never got the better of him, no telling what kind of numbers he would have ended up with. What can you say about Sweetness... best ever.

after last night, its' liable to be quicker than that.