went to my library got frank Costello prime minster of the underworld this book sucks only cool thing is the photo of his tomb blown up a year after he died. you know the feds must have got the truth about it from massino. who did it and why.

Just finished Bill Bonanno's Last Testament. Not recommended. You won't discover anything new, and he repeats many of the lies his father told. Don't buy it.

any books on the pittsburgh mob, scranton mob, milwaukee mob or the new orleans mob?

JoeTheBoss, try Mafia Kingfish for the NOLA mob.

so john alite has a book coming out soon was hoping for a sal vitale book or maybe one of these Colombo turncoats. frank coppa book on that family would be good to but I think his son didn't turn and is still a member. frank coppa was around forever I read. you know jurnior gotti gonna have a lot to say about the alite book. he's a dogg.

Many mobsters whose stories I'm interested in hearing. Alite is not one of them.

So I think I am finally going to splash out on 3 or 4 mob books after failing miserably to find any of them in local bookshops.

Out of the following, which should I get?

D'Arco
Leonetti
Caramandi
Five Families
Brotherhoods
Massino
Basciano
The Goodfella Tapes
The Sixth Family
Scarpa
Kill The Irishman
The Westies
Blood and Honor

http://www.amazon.com/Mobfather-Story-Wife-Caught-Mafia/dp/0821743481

Is this one by Del Giorno's wife and son any good?

Start with the Five Families by Selwyn Raab.

It gives a great foundation for understanding the rest of the books which are mostly stories dealing with more recent history.

Five Families is the size of a thick textbook. My advice is to buy a copy, get comfortable, and put on some interesting music.

Enjoy reading the stories within it to a good soundtrack. It will be better than a movie.

For the last mafia book I read, I had History by Groove Armada Grum Remix on in the background for a good deal of it.

I've got all those books moe and there all really good books

The Sixth Family was good if you wanting to learn about Montreal.

Check this one out about the Boston Mafia

http://www.amazon.com/Dirty-Money-Mr-Joe...ey+joe+lafratta

here is one that you will enjoy, and it covers some of the territories you're interested in.



" the quite don " is an interesting read of Russell buffalino, whose territories included some of what you are interested in. he was very strong with the teamsters. and, very powerful. although not flashy ala gotti.

I have to mention this one...

"The Last Testament of Lucky Luciano".

A lot has been discussed and debated about this book, it's factual errors and inconsistencies with proven chronology. Understandably, it has many detractors.

The authors are Martin A Gosch and Richard Hammer.

Martin Gosch was a film producer from Hollywood.

Richard Hammer was a book author whose books once became a film.

The story goes that Charlie Luciano wanted to make a film about himself that for various reasons, never got made. One story says that Meyer Lansky vetoed it from the States. To me this is unlikely since as a Jew Lansky had no veto powers in the Mafia.

In Salvadore Vizzini's book, "Vizzini, the Story of America's N0. 1 Narcotics Agent", he quotes Luciano directly...

Salvadore Vizzini: "But what about the movie? You said there was a hundred thousand or more in it for you. That's a lot of money, Charlie."

Charlie Luciano:"Yeah, I know. But when I read the script I told them no. They wanted to phony it up, just like they did with Capone. The real story's better, but they probably wouldn't believe it if they heard it. Not that they're going to. Anyway, I don't need the money that bad."

Therefore Charlie Luciano is telling us right there that the Last Testament is fiction.

What I think happened is that Luciano had a change of mind possibly and met Gosch again to discuss the movie, and then died before it could be completed. Gosch then turned around and used the movie script he and Charlie were working on to make up a phony biographical novel.

It is part truth and part Hollywood fantasy.

To get caught up in a debate about why the book is not "trustworthy" completely misses the point. The book originally was not that. It originally was just a movie script.

thanks for the Info. Did someone read "Mafia Kingfish: Carlos Marcello and the Assassination of John F. Kennedy" from John H. Davis?

I read 'contract on America" by david schiem" its about carlos Marcello also,

Theres a new Vito Rizzuto book coming out, I'm sure most of you are aware by now, it chronicles his final months on this world, and the final war and bloodshed he brought to Canada and his enemies and the guys who crossed him after he went away. Looks really good, was gonna pre-order, but realized that it isnt written by the guys who wrote The Sixth Family, so it may not be as good. So I'm just going to wait and see what the reviews are when its out.

Out of all the LCN books I've read, the Vinny Gorgeous book was by the worst. It was just so boring, and really,I don't think it told a lot about what Basciano did and brought to the Bonnano's. It loosely covers his reign as acting boss, the talks with Massino in prison, and the Polizzi murder. The later chapters also have more to do with Dom Cicale than anything else Way too much time was spent on the Blue Thunder cade, and I wouldve preferred to learn more about why guys like Philly Lucky and Big Trinny chose to bring him around and involve him in the life at such a young age. And the impact those two had on his life. It was cool learning that Bruno Indelicato returned to NY, and was still a heavyweight within the family and basically Basciano's right hand and Cicales mentor, eeven with Massino (the guy who ordered his dads killing) still in the picture as boss.

The D'Arco book is exaggerated, from what I've heard, he as never that close to Hickey DiLorenzo or the Beck brothers. Pretty sure Amuso & Casso never feared the guy either. And that story of he and Casso crying together in a park before Casso went on the lam, comical bullshit. Also I'm pretty sure the story he told of his friend Ralph Musci, beating up Benny Eggs, while Benny Eggs was a Capo or possibly at the mentioned time period, underboss, and Musci and D'Arco werent even made at the time is pure bullshit. They would've been dead and we'd have never heard of Al D'Arco. He says they were going to murder him which led to him flipping, he and Sal Avellino. But he says prior to that meeting, he had already taken the card of an FBI agent, which probably means he was going to rat anyway. He then says he called Avellino the day after and Avellino knew he was going to be killed along with Al. Yet wr know Avellino continued to earn and be with the Lucchese's, why would he stick around guys he knew wanted him dead?

Just ordered Five Families and Operation Family Secrets and I Heard You Paint Houses. Looking forward to getting into those very soon.

Family Secrets wasn't bad, all you are basically going to learn is things about the Calabrese family. Was still a good look into that family though.

I just recently bought deal with the devil the fbi secret 30 yr relationship wit scarpa I'm hoping they go into detail about the Colombo wars of the 90s and to learn a lot about scarpa in his early days. Ne one kno if its a good read

its a good read, he was one of a kind, and it goes into the wars. he was a one man wrecking crew. not sure if I believe the part about him and the fbi, and the klan though.

Dixie, it that the one where the son testifies against his old man about his dealings in Chicago?

Is Breakshot: A Life in the 21st Century American Mafia good? I was thinking about reading it, anyone knows about it?

Yep wore a wire while in prison with him and got him to talk about murders he participated in. Eventually his Uncle also testified against his Dad as well.

I'm with you Binnie, I think it's horseshit the FBI would ask him to go to Mississippi where he would stand out like a huge sore thumb back then, to dig up info. I think that is pure b.s.

you bet it is Dixie, ive been back there enough to know better, all my cousins were born in rebbeca ga. and my kin from Oklahoma,and Arkansas,

and Mississippi, I been there I know them people, and its makes a good story. but, no way!

I figured you had family in Georgia considering you were a UGA fan and live in the NW. Mississippi has a weird group, and rural MS back then would have been even worse so there is no way Scarpa just lolly gags into town and kidnaps the dude for the feds.

I am sure these two books have been mentioned many times but I just recently finished reading them both a 2nd time and will be reading them again in the future

BLACK MASS

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Mass-Whitey-...ords=Black+Mass

HITMAN

http://www.amazon.com/Hitman-Martorano-E...R2RW515712XSFYW

BLACK MASS is about Whitey Bulger and Steve Flemmi and the FBI

HITMAN is about John Martarano who was a hitman and gangster in the Boston Mob/Organized Crime scene. Both are page turners and well written. Hitman is funny in some parts as it sheds light on just how crazy and insane one has to be to live the life of a criminal

Any other excellent Boston or New England mob books?

JW, I got Underboss on eBay for like 4 bucks with shipping (hardback too). It was about the North End and mainly Jerry Angiulo and his family and his tie to Ray Sr. and the Feds going after him.

Well worth the read and has some good pictures in it too, just skip the chapters that are about the Feds themselves because it just drags on and makes you lose interest. The parts about Angiulo though was actually good.

Just reading about them trying to bug and video his actions on Prince Street made it well worth the read.

Have any of you read the book by Joe Dogs Iannuzzi ?

yes, I read it, if I remember he was beaten real bad. I read it a while back. not a bad read.

Has anyone read the book about Sam Giancana called "Double Cross"? It was written by Mooney's younger brother Chuck. I'm reading it right now; beginning is good, talks about Giancana growing up in the Patch in Chicago, eventually becoming a soldier in the Outfit. There's some inaccuracies though and I have a feeling its gonna go downhill when I get to the CIA/ JFK part...

Yeah good book there some truth in there we will never know about the CIA JFK Hit Must are Dead if not all And THE Files are Hidden for A long time And when they do come Out they be blanked out lyndon johnson was one on that hit plus loads of upperworld Members look for who made Money on the wars what come in the 60s that a start

anyone read dominic cicale ebook. I don't know how to kindle or however the fuck you ebook. just wanted to here what he says about vito still sending money to someone in nyc and who is the boss today. its only 4bucks so I would check it out rat or not just to see what he says about the family today, and the peoplein power.