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Re: Mafia members earnings.
[Re: pizzaboy]
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11/29/14 05:30 PM
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
[Re: pizzaboy]
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11/29/14 05:56 PM
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Hells kitchen has been gentrified since 1990. Beat up at by some irish kids? You sure you you were'nt at a frat party at NYU and took a beating from a frat guy drinking an irish beer???? Whats next ? He dated an italian girl from east harlem? Don't bust his balls, Belmont. Johnny's been working behind the scenes to get Jimmy Coonan sprung from the clink. They're gonna take back 10th Avenue together. Featherstone and Beatty are out, maybe they should reform the Westies and take Hell's Kitchen for the Irish. lol
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
[Re: pizzaboy]
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11/29/14 06:43 PM
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I am 24, born in Naples, moved to Jersey when I was 12, wasn't really good at school but my English quality depends on my mood, I noticed you commented it on an earlyer post of mine, but I was fascinated by the mob as a young kid. When I was 16 I meet a girl who knew a few pot dealers and I got connected to them and bought a few grams with the little cash I had, I sold it to some wannabe-alcoholic tough-guys at school and felt like a true Gangster. Once me and my friend tried to walk in to a well known ''Mob Social Club'' when we were at a party in Brooklyn. We weren't allowed inside though, but I fell into contact with some Irish guys from Hells Kitchen and got beat up pretty bad and sentenced to 18 months for possession, after that I grew a brain and got a job. Still seems tempting to join the life, especially since I am Italian you know. But after reading a lot of your posts about how the life is bad and at the beginning it's all about you taking the blame for the old guys, it doesn't seem that glamorous. I really look forward to read the bullshit comments about how this is fake. I'm not judging you, kid. It actually sounds somewhat believable. Except for the part about the Irish in Hell's Kitchen. Because that neighborhood has been gentrified for at least the past fifteen years (which would have made you nine years old and living in Italy when the gentrification started). But welcome to the boards . Didn't know that 'bout hells kitchen, but they were a bunch of irish goons, I promise you that. I have a scar on the left side of my head, they cracked it open when busting my head against the sidewalk.
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
[Re: sbhc]
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11/29/14 07:43 PM
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Obviously it differs given the individual but can anyone give an average earning of a modern day made man in one of NY's families?
What do they see out of it per annum? It's futile to talk specific dollar amounts but the average made guy seems to be more or less middle class, with a minority on either end of the spectrum, i.e. some very rich, others broke. Those are total bets, Alfa. Not total wins or losses. And that doesn't factor in any of the overhead, like paying your sheet writers. Never mind the fact that at any given time most bookmakers have at least 30 percent in uncollected debts. Those numbers are ridiculously inflated by the Feds and their stooge lackeys in the media. Everyone's input is valuable and respected. I think this is what poster Johnny Dio was referring to: $2.2 billion in wagers, primarily on sporting events, during a 15-month period. From that number (2.2B) and time frame (15 months), you can calculate the gang's income based on the average payout ratio of the bets. Someone else here will have to finish the calculus because many of us just don't know the nuts and bolts of that industry. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Those articles are meaningless. The only people who would know what they made is the bank. You're not factoring in who is on a half sheet. Who's on a quarter sheet. Who's running for ten percent. What's the cost PPH? Every book probably has 20-30 percent outstanding. I can go on and on and on and on and on. What is a bookie? The $2.2 billion was simply the amount of wagers transacted over the 15 month investigation. That's all law enforcement said. If the media then says the Luccheses "took in" or "made" that much, thereby insinuating it was all profit, that's not the government's fault.
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
[Re: IvyLeague]
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11/29/14 07:57 PM
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The $2.2 billion was simply the amount of wagers transacted over the 15 month investigation. That's all law enforcement said. If the media then says the Luccheses "took in" or "made" that much, thereby insinuating it was all profit, that's not the government's fault. That's fair enough, Ivy. As long as you agree that someone sensationalizes those figures. Media, law enforcement, whoever. I'm just a humble Bronx guy. They all look alike to me, buddy .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
[Re: IvyLeague]
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11/30/14 07:42 AM
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Obviously it differs given the individual but can anyone give an average earning of a modern day made man in one of NY's families?
What do they see out of it per annum? It's futile to talk specific dollar amounts but the average made guy seems to be more or less middle class, with a minority on either end of the spectrum, i.e. some very rich, others broke. Those are total bets, Alfa. Not total wins or losses. And that doesn't factor in any of the overhead, like paying your sheet writers. Never mind the fact that at any given time most bookmakers have at least 30 percent in uncollected debts. Those numbers are ridiculously inflated by the Feds and their stooge lackeys in the media. Everyone's input is valuable and respected. I think this is what poster Johnny Dio was referring to: $2.2 billion in wagers, primarily on sporting events, during a 15-month period. From that number (2.2B) and time frame (15 months), you can calculate the gang's income based on the average payout ratio of the bets. Someone else here will have to finish the calculus because many of us just don't know the nuts and bolts of that industry. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Those articles are meaningless. The only people who would know what they made is the bank. You're not factoring in who is on a half sheet. Who's on a quarter sheet. Who's running for ten percent. What's the cost PPH? Every book probably has 20-30 percent outstanding. I can go on and on and on and on and on. What is a bookie? The $2.2 billion was simply the amount of wagers transacted over the 15 month investigation. That's all law enforcement said. If the media then says the Luccheses "took in" or "made" that much, thereby insinuating it was all profit, that's not the government's fault. Ok Ivy. Now that we both agree it's was wagered. How much did they clear? Because that was the ?
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
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#816164
11/30/14 10:01 AM
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Obviously it differs given the individual but can anyone give an average earning of a modern day made man in one of NY's families?
What do they see out of it per annum? It's futile to talk specific dollar amounts but the average made guy seems to be more or less middle class, with a minority on either end of the spectrum, i.e. some very rich, others broke. Those are total bets, Alfa. Not total wins or losses. And that doesn't factor in any of the overhead, like paying your sheet writers. Never mind the fact that at any given time most bookmakers have at least 30 percent in uncollected debts. Those numbers are ridiculously inflated by the Feds and their stooge lackeys in the media. Everyone's input is valuable and respected. I think this is what poster Johnny Dio was referring to: $2.2 billion in wagers, primarily on sporting events, during a 15-month period. From that number (2.2B) and time frame (15 months), you can calculate the gang's income based on the average payout ratio of the bets. Someone else here will have to finish the calculus because many of us just don't know the nuts and bolts of that industry. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Those articles are meaningless. The only people who would know what they made is the bank. You're not factoring in who is on a half sheet. Who's on a quarter sheet. Who's running for ten percent. What's the cost PPH? Every book probably has 20-30 percent outstanding. I can go on and on and on and on and on. What is a bookie? The $2.2 billion was simply the amount of wagers transacted over the 15 month investigation. That's all law enforcement said. If the media then says the Luccheses "took in" or "made" that much, thereby insinuating it was all profit, that's not the government's fault. Ok Ivy. Now that we both agree it's was wagered. How much did they clear? Because that was the ? By my southern sophisticated calculations I come to the total profit of $157.28
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
[Re: LaLouisiane]
#816166
11/30/14 10:23 AM
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By my southern sophisticated calculations I come to the total profit of $157.28 Union or Confederacy?
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
[Re: sbhc]
#816167
11/30/14 10:28 AM
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Every mob guy that made a good living always had something legit as well. You may have a few exceptions but if you only rely on scores, you will be your lawyers best customer.
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
[Re: pizzaboy]
#816171
11/30/14 10:42 AM
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By my southern sophisticated calculations I come to the total profit of $157.28 Union or Confederacy? Why, I say, I say...sittin' here in this rocking chair we're gonna have to go with the southern confederacy my Yankee friend.
"What are you cacklin' hens cluckin' about?!?!"
"Is that him?!? With the sombrero on?!?"
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
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#816175
11/30/14 10:53 AM
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Every mob guy that made a good living always had something legit as well. You may have a few exceptions but if you only rely on scores, you will be your lawyers best customer. Amen to that. Especially today. If you're twenty years old and you think you're gonna live on a half sheet for the rest of your life, you're in for a rude awakening.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
[Re: Johnny_Dio]
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12/01/14 09:56 AM
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I am 24, born in Naples, moved to Jersey when I was 12, wasn't really good at school but my English quality depends on my mood, I noticed you commented it on an earlyer post of mine, but I was fascinated by the mob as a young kid. When I was 16 I meet a girl who knew a few pot dealers and I got connected to them and bought a few grams with the little cash I had, I sold it to some wannabe-alcoholic tough-guys at school and felt like a true Gangster. Once me and my friend tried to walk in to a well known ''Mob Social Club'' when we were at a party in Brooklyn. We weren't allowed inside though, but I fell into contact with some Irish guys from Hells Kitchen and got beat up pretty bad and sentenced to 18 months for possession, after that I grew a brain and got a job. Still seems tempting to join the life, especially since I am Italian you know. But after reading a lot of your posts about how the life is bad and at the beginning it's all about you taking the blame for the old guys, it doesn't seem that glamorous. I really look forward to read the bullshit comments about how this is fake. Now this is comedy gold.
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
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12/01/14 10:05 AM
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I am 24, born in Naples, moved to Jersey when I was 12, wasn't really good at school but my English quality depends on my mood, I noticed you commented it on an earlyer post of mine, but I was fascinated by the mob as a young kid. When I was 16 I meet a girl who knew a few pot dealers and I got connected to them and bought a few grams with the little cash I had, I sold it to some wannabe-alcoholic tough-guys at school and felt like a true Gangster. Once me and my friend tried to walk in to a well known ''Mob Social Club'' when we were at a party in Brooklyn. We weren't allowed inside though, but I fell into contact with some Irish guys from Hells Kitchen and got beat up pretty bad and sentenced to 18 months for possession, after that I grew a brain and got a job. Still seems tempting to join the life, especially since I am Italian you know. But after reading a lot of your posts about how the life is bad and at the beginning it's all about you taking the blame for the old guys, it doesn't seem that glamorous. I really look forward to read the bullshit comments about how this is fake. Now this is comedy gold. Yeah, I guess when he read "The Westies" he didn't notice that they haven't updated the ending since 1989. You know, before the West Side of Manhattan turned into Disneyland.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia members earnings.
[Re: pizzaboy]
#816373
12/01/14 12:07 PM
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I am 24, born in Naples, moved to Jersey when I was 12, wasn't really good at school but my English quality depends on my mood, I noticed you commented it on an earlyer post of mine, but I was fascinated by the mob as a young kid. When I was 16 I meet a girl who knew a few pot dealers and I got connected to them and bought a few grams with the little cash I had, I sold it to some wannabe-alcoholic tough-guys at school and felt like a true Gangster. Once me and my friend tried to walk in to a well known ''Mob Social Club'' when we were at a party in Brooklyn. We weren't allowed inside though, but I fell into contact with some Irish guys from Hells Kitchen and got beat up pretty bad and sentenced to 18 months for possession, after that I grew a brain and got a job. Still seems tempting to join the life, especially since I am Italian you know. But after reading a lot of your posts about how the life is bad and at the beginning it's all about you taking the blame for the old guys, it doesn't seem that glamorous. I really look forward to read the bullshit comments about how this is fake. Now this is comedy gold. Yeah, I guess when he read "The Westies" he didn't notice that they haven't updated the ending since 1989. You know, before the West Side of Manhattan turned into Disneyland. My favorite part was when he sold a few nickel bags worth of pot to wanna be alcoholic tough guys (whatever that means) and that is the act that made him feel like a true gangster. When he got knocked for possession of a few grams of pot, they binged him for 18 months for a first timer. I am waiting for part 2 of this classic story. Probably includes a story of him taking over the crafts room in jail with other eye-talians and hanging an "Italians Only" sign outside.
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