Pb good point the fact that john didnt let his brother and other guys take a plea is short sighted and naive. Like you said the Genovese and Lucchese's realized the futility in denying the family existed and the importance of having their qualified guys back on the street instead of dieing in the can denying something everyone knows since 1963 existed. Also I would think allowing them to plea and allocute with less time would have some impact on the number of rats no matter how minimal, one or two less rats in a given crew or family would for sure make a difference.