First post here boys..... so go easy! Pretty much what it says on the tin really...if Detroit are not as active like some of you are saying, then why have they got a full adminstration and 5 capo's. Surely for a family not up to much, thats a bit over kill no?

they have more in common with your avatar's crime family than any other real active family today

I'd be stunned if they are into anything more than some low key gambling/shy

What, you don't think any drugs are being moved, distributed or protected with their close proximity to Canada... Or prostitution, etc... with Casino's right there...

I would advise using the search function before bringing this up, which will just start an argument with the same people that say Detroit is dead.

They are more active than you think. Also, regardless of numbers they have more admin spots than NY traditionally does, for insulation purposes.

But you obviously have already formed your opinion with statements such as "surely for a family not up to much". You sound pretty confident in this.

Anyway here is roughly how it looks today.

Administration

Boss – Jack “Jackie the Kid/The Bathrobe” Giacalone
Underboss – Anthony “Chicago Tony/Tony Lop/The Loli-Pop” La Piana
Consiglieri – Anthony “Tony Pal/The Butterfly” Palazzola
Street Boss – Peter “Specs/Blackie” Tocco
Counselor emeritus: Giacomo “Black Jack” Tocco, Joseph "Joe Hooks" Mirabile, Dominic "Uncle Dom" Bommarito

Capos

David “Davey Donuts” Aceto
Joseph “Joey Jack/Joe Vine” Giacalone
Joseph “Joe the Hood” D’Anna
Paul “Big Paulie” Corrado
Antonino “Tony the Extermintor” Ruggirello (coming out of retirement for short-term stint until La Piana names an official successor as boss of his crew, the former Meli crew)

“Soldiers”

Anthony “Tony Z” Zerilli (inactive/shelved)
Vito Tocco
Salvatore “Mops/Junior” Tocco
Jack “Little Jackie/Miami Jack” Tocco, Jr. (part of the year in FL)
Anthony “Nino/Smitty” Tocco
Anthony “Little Tony/Little Tawncy” Tocco, Jr. (part of the year in FL)
Joseph “Joe T” Tocco
Peter “Fat Pete” Corrado
Peter “Baby Bull” Corrado
Paul “Cousin Paulie/the Fixer” Corrado
Anthony “Nino” Corrado
Dominic “Chicago Dom” Corrado (CHI-NW IN)
Joseph “Joe White” Giacalone (Flint)
Jack “Jackie the Nose” Giacalone (FL)
Vincent “Vinnie Jack” Giacalone
Dominic “Fat Dom” Rubino
Peter “Petey Boy” Messina
Joseph “Jo Jo” Messina
Joseph "Joe the Clipper" Barbara, Jr. (semi-retired, sometimes looked to for counsel by admin)
Dominic “Big Dom” Vivio (shelved-PITT)
Frank “Frankie the Bomb” Bommarito (semi-active)
Robert “Bobby the Animal” La Puma
Gerard Di Michelle
Sam Ventilmiglia (TX)
Anthony Rugerio
Patrick Rugerio
Antonio “Toto” Ruggirello
Anthony “Little Tony Long” Cimini, Jr.
Anthony “Little Tony Razz” Randazo Jr,
Girolamo “Mimmo” D’Anna
Salvatore “Sparky” Palazzola, Jr.
Vincenzo “Vinnie Meatballs” Bronzino
John “Johnny Bananas” Sciarotta
Joseph “Joe D” Di Stefano
Eugene “Genie Boy” Baratta
Joseph “Joey the Trash Man” Tringali
Isodoro “Teddy San Diego” Matranga (CAL)
Peter “Pete the Clown” Leonardo
Louis “Butch” Stramaglia
Greektown Mike Katranis (in charge of Greektown)
William "Billy Lee" Loiacano (FL-inactive)
Joseph "Joe Gravel" Gargalino (FL-Retired)

Jesus, look at the last names, these guys really believes in keep to themselves

IMHO: no, not really

again: I'd be surprised to see any of the alleged members to be linked to anything that isn't books, shy and minor extortion

It looks like they have a small army to me...The total number of members and associates has to be around 150-160, give or take...plus that city is hurtin' so bad, i wouldn't be surprised if these guys don't have the "key to the city"...They're laughing all the way to the coffee cans in the backyard. Granted, i don't know too much about the Detroit Fam, just my opinion.

[quote=LuanKuci]they have more in common with your avatar's crime family than any other real active family today

Nice one, for making me feel like a dick on my first post there LuanKuci. Got a warm homely feeling all over. Yer so obviously Detroit must be up to all kinds, they've got more capo's than philly....havent they?.....also your not gona have all those guys, if you haven't got enough work for them. Doesn't make smart business sense....plus there would be murder...literally!

Relax, Buddy. LK never makes trouble here. Ever. If he made a joke and it fell flat I can assure you it wasn't intentional.

Welcome to the boards, though. Enjoy .

Thanks PIzza...good effort fella.

I'll put it out there right now, mike89 is a troll.

watch the sarcasm goofy

this is a great site...if you don't jump at other posters' throats in a blink of an eye for no reason whatsoever

many believe that they are more role-playing mobsters (playing the part) than anything else

hence the reference to a made up family of intimidating actors

Welcome to the boards mike 89, feel free to voice your opinions

I'm a troll? Whats that supposed to mean? I'm not the one masquerading round as Tommy Gambino. Anyway... I asked a question and it was answered...for that. I give thanks.

Sorry LuanKuchi thought you were trying to take the piss...caught wrong end of the stick... got a bit touchy feely....thanks for answering the questions etc.

Half those guys are probably over 70 years old. I don't see where they can recruit 150 associates from. Plus they are not based in Detroit and haven't been for decades. Most of them live in the surrounding suburbs like Grosse Point.

10-4, I gotcha...Thanks

That Grosse Point looks like a nice area... no wonder they wana kick it back there.

I'd suggest searching for Scotts post, regardless of what anyone else says, it his city. And his Law enforcement sources and the undesirables he's contacted in the past, have a completely different angle than what most people on this forum itself, tend to portray. In my opinion, they aren't doing things on a major scale but they also arent as dead as some make it out to be.

Also, the fact they've had one informant who was a made guy (Nove Tocco), throughout their entire history, why is it so far fetched that they still might maintain somewhat of a power base there? They were never inflicted with many of the cases the NY families, Philadelphia or Chicago, had to deal with. And not one of their recent bosses died in jail, they died old and happy in their own homes surrounded by family. Are we supposed to believe these guys completely turned their lives around or didnt set up a base before they died, and just said "This thing dies eith us", when they have sons, and nephews still involved and depend on traditional mob scams to make money? I dont know about drugs, but its an almost fact that they still contribute in a large part to Detroits sports betting and loansharking. That's a lot more than what most Mob families in the states can say.

Nobody said Detroit "isn't active" or that they "turned their lives around." There are still mob guys in Detroit who are involved in bookmaking and loansharking. But you could also say that about Buffalo or Kansas City.

The dispute is over how big, active, and strong the family still is. For anyone who thinks the family has 50+ members in 2014 and is that hierarchical (as the above chart shows), I have a bridge in Brooklyn AND swampland in Florida I want to sell you.

Second this.

I firmly believe that Detroit is simply just a gambling ring on the same level, with the same activities as the Newark Crew of the Philadelphia LCN family. But hey what do I know, I have only driven through Detroit two times on my way to Windsor, Ontario Canada and haven't been there since 2007!?!?!

So you are comparing Buffalo and Kansas city to Detroit?

If you believe that I have those same items for sale for you, listed on ebay.

Also,

Who on the chart that is listed as a soldier isn't made?

The chart was made from Scott's sources and are all legitimate names.

So where is your evidence to dispute these members?

And don't you dare say "well due to the lack of FBI attention on them and lack of indictments" as your evidence.

2cents I never knew there was a mob up montreal, so what Detroit 2 hous away. they loves drugs up there so I think there is a mob there probably 20 30guys. 3 people have the top. rizzuto must have had a lot of contacts there.

I might go on cheap tickets.com to see what a 5 day vation would cost plane hotel car. wonder what the hell there is to do there. all you ever hear is horror stories. the city went bankrupt they wernt paing the police, the mayor got rico. probably the only mayor other then buddy cianci.

speaking of vacations is st peterburgs florida to cold next month to book?

A bridge? In Brooklyn? Must be a different bridge because i just bought one in Brooklyn from this real nice Nigerian fellow that emailed me last week. I got a great deal on it. Seems that he recently inherited it but due to circumstances had to sell it at a bargain price. I just western unioned him $100,000. I should have the deed anyday now. I can't wait to start charging tolls on it. I'm going to be rich!

You should be okay, but you just never know when it comes to Florida in January. It could be 80 degrees, but then again it could be 45. That's why it's hard to just pick a week. You should just go for a month .

But why Saint Pete? Don't get me wrong, it's a nice area. I'm just curious.