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Re: Detroit isn't that active...why the full admin?
[Re: Blackjack2121]
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12/11/14 09:30 AM
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I know Blackjack, there are a lot of keyboard tough guys on here. My Father always told me those that you should fear most are the people that keep their mouth's shut and that is the truth. I just never understood these anonymous trolls who say shit like "this mobster looks like a pussy"Meanwhile the guy has multiple bodies under their belt, while the only thing the poster has under their belt, is a stomach roll the size of a large dog. Yet you claim Barney Bellomo would beat up Frank Cali based on what? Same reason you stalk personal fb and instagrams of mobsters I guess. Go sip your tea and continue to envy America, and stop stalking me weirdo. Stalk Instagram and FB of mobsters? Only time I've ever seen a mobster on Instagram is when somebody put the link up on here to Joey Merlino's, looked at it once, haven't since. You're a very strange individual, continually make things up about me because I embarrassed you and called you out on your bullshit. Why on earth would I envy america?  You've got a very elitist view of the world.
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Re: Detroit isn't that active...why the full admin?
[Re: Blackjack2121]
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12/11/14 10:01 AM
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You have never embarrassed me. Hence why I don't follow you around making comments, but you stalk me because I crushed your fragile little ego, and you are still reeling from months ago. hahaha...PATHETIC. Now stop throwing the topic off, weird little stalker and go back to beating off to Merlinos personal photos. I saw you blatantly contradict yourself with the post you made in this thread and pointed out your fantasies of Barney & Cali fighting which is just fucking strange. So I'm a stalker for calling you out on you're bullshit twice? Ok then. If I didn't embarrass you then why did you make up lies about me making threads about 'Best dressed gangster' which clearly never happened, also saying I stalk mobsters on facebook when I had a look once. All you're lies are quite clearly a tool to deflect attention away from yourself when you're proven wrong or embarrassed. Get a life.
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Re: Detroit isn't that active...why the full admin?
[Re: Blackjack2121]
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12/12/14 03:28 PM
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Terence
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First post here boys..... so go easy! Pretty much what it says on the tin really...if Detroit are not as active like some of you are saying, then why have they got a full adminstration and 5 capo's. Surely for a family not up to much, thats a bit over kill no? I would advise using the search function before bringing this up, which will just start an argument with the same people that say Detroit is dead. They are more active than you think. Also, regardless of numbers they have more admin spots than NY traditionally does, for insulation purposes. But you obviously have already formed your opinion with statements such as "surely for a family not up to much". You sound pretty confident in this. Anyway here is roughly how it looks today. Administration Boss – Jack “Jackie the Kid/The Bathrobe” Giacalone Underboss – Anthony “Chicago Tony/Tony Lop/The Loli-Pop” La Piana Consiglieri – Anthony “Tony Pal/The Butterfly” Palazzola Street Boss – Peter “Specs/Blackie” Tocco Counselor emeritus: Giacomo “Black Jack” Tocco, Joseph "Joe Hooks" Mirabile, Dominic "Uncle Dom" Bommarito Capos David “Davey Donuts” Aceto Joseph “Joey Jack/Joe Vine” Giacalone Joseph “Joe the Hood” D’Anna Paul “Big Paulie” Corrado Antonino “Tony the Extermintor” Ruggirello (coming out of retirement for short-term stint until La Piana names an official successor as boss of his crew, the former Meli crew) “Soldiers” Anthony “Tony Z” Zerilli (inactive/shelved) Vito Tocco Salvatore “Mops/Junior” Tocco Jack “Little Jackie/Miami Jack” Tocco, Jr. (part of the year in FL) Anthony “Nino/Smitty” Tocco Anthony “Little Tony/Little Tawncy” Tocco, Jr. (part of the year in FL) Joseph “Joe T” Tocco Peter “Fat Pete” Corrado Peter “Baby Bull” Corrado Paul “Cousin Paulie/the Fixer” Corrado Anthony “Nino” Corrado Dominic “Chicago Dom” Corrado (CHI-NW IN) Joseph “Joe White” Giacalone (Flint) Jack “Jackie the Nose” Giacalone (FL) Vincent “Vinnie Jack” Giacalone Dominic “Fat Dom” Rubino Peter “Petey Boy” Messina Joseph “Jo Jo” Messina Joseph "Joe the Clipper" Barbara, Jr. (semi-retired, sometimes looked to for counsel by admin) Dominic “Big Dom” Vivio (shelved-PITT) Frank “Frankie the Bomb” Bommarito (semi-active) Robert “Bobby the Animal” La Puma Gerard Di Michelle Sam Ventilmiglia (TX) Anthony Rugerio Patrick Rugerio Antonio “Toto” Ruggirello Anthony “Little Tony Long” Cimini, Jr. Anthony “Little Tony Razz” Randazo Jr, Girolamo “Mimmo” D’Anna Salvatore “Sparky” Palazzola, Jr. Vincenzo “Vinnie Meatballs” Bronzino John “Johnny Bananas” Sciarotta Joseph “Joe D” Di Stefano Eugene “Genie Boy” Baratta Joseph “Joey the Trash Man” Tringali Isodoro “Teddy San Diego” Matranga (CAL) Peter “Pete the Clown” Leonardo Louis “Butch” Stramaglia Greektown Mike Katranis (in charge of Greektown) William "Billy Lee" Loiacano (FL-inactive) Joseph "Joe Gravel" Gargalino (FL-Retired) Great list BlackJack. I've also read about Girolamo"Mimmo" D'Anna and Guiseppe "Joe" D'Anna as being Detroit's main connection to Italy through their cousin Salvatore D'anna. I agree that they may be small as a family but the ones moving up are carrying some serious clout. As with all families you have the cunning silent types and the fuckin maniacs. These guys are clearly the maniacs. http://www.sourcenewspapers.com/articles/2013/03/07/news/doc5137d05e9da2d770356725.txt"The two Shelby Township brothers indicted last month by a federal grand jury in connection to the baseball bat-beating of a rival restaurant owner have ties to alleged Sicilian Mafia figures in Italy and should be considered dangerous, according to federal prosecutors. Giuseppe D'Anna, aka "Joe," 60, and Girolamo D'Anna, aka "Mimmo," 48, are the cousins of Salvatore D'Anna, who the U.S. Justice Department says is a boss of a crime family in Terrasini, Italy. Both of the D'Annas and Ventimiglia were born and raised in Terrasini, Italy, court records show. "According to the latest documents, the D'Anna brothers were upset that the owners of Nonna's Kitchen had not sought and received permission from them prior to opening the restaurant in 2009. At the time, Giuseppe D'Anna's wife owned Tiramisu Italian Ristorante across the street. The feds say the D'Annas made it known the victim's family would be subject to the punishment of the Sicilian Mafia if he proceeded with the opening. Two years later, when Nonna's was undergoing an expansion in 2011, the D'Annas entered the restaurant one night. While Girolama D'Anna distracted the victim, Giuseppe D'Anna entered and struck the owner 11 times with a baseball bat, leaving him with a closed head injury, broken jaw and other injuries."
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Re: Detroit isn't that active...why the full admin?
[Re: Terence]
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12/12/14 05:25 PM
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First post here boys..... so go easy! Pretty much what it says on the tin really...if Detroit are not as active like some of you are saying, then why have they got a full adminstration and 5 capo's. Surely for a family not up to much, thats a bit over kill no? I would advise using the search function before bringing this up, which will just start an argument with the same people that say Detroit is dead. They are more active than you think. Also, regardless of numbers they have more admin spots than NY traditionally does, for insulation purposes. But you obviously have already formed your opinion with statements such as "surely for a family not up to much". You sound pretty confident in this. Anyway here is roughly how it looks today. Administration Boss – Jack “Jackie the Kid/The Bathrobe” Giacalone Underboss – Anthony “Chicago Tony/Tony Lop/The Loli-Pop” La Piana Consiglieri – Anthony “Tony Pal/The Butterfly” Palazzola Street Boss – Peter “Specs/Blackie” Tocco Counselor emeritus: Giacomo “Black Jack” Tocco, Joseph "Joe Hooks" Mirabile, Dominic "Uncle Dom" Bommarito Capos David “Davey Donuts” Aceto Joseph “Joey Jack/Joe Vine” Giacalone Joseph “Joe the Hood” D’Anna Paul “Big Paulie” Corrado Antonino “Tony the Extermintor” Ruggirello (coming out of retirement for short-term stint until La Piana names an official successor as boss of his crew, the former Meli crew) “Soldiers” Anthony “Tony Z” Zerilli (inactive/shelved) Vito Tocco Salvatore “Mops/Junior” Tocco Jack “Little Jackie/Miami Jack” Tocco, Jr. (part of the year in FL) Anthony “Nino/Smitty” Tocco Anthony “Little Tony/Little Tawncy” Tocco, Jr. (part of the year in FL) Joseph “Joe T” Tocco Peter “Fat Pete” Corrado Peter “Baby Bull” Corrado Paul “Cousin Paulie/the Fixer” Corrado Anthony “Nino” Corrado Dominic “Chicago Dom” Corrado (CHI-NW IN) Joseph “Joe White” Giacalone (Flint) Jack “Jackie the Nose” Giacalone (FL) Vincent “Vinnie Jack” Giacalone Dominic “Fat Dom” Rubino Peter “Petey Boy” Messina Joseph “Jo Jo” Messina Joseph "Joe the Clipper" Barbara, Jr. (semi-retired, sometimes looked to for counsel by admin) Dominic “Big Dom” Vivio (shelved-PITT) Frank “Frankie the Bomb” Bommarito (semi-active) Robert “Bobby the Animal” La Puma Gerard Di Michelle Sam Ventilmiglia (TX) Anthony Rugerio Patrick Rugerio Antonio “Toto” Ruggirello Anthony “Little Tony Long” Cimini, Jr. Anthony “Little Tony Razz” Randazo Jr, Girolamo “Mimmo” D’Anna Salvatore “Sparky” Palazzola, Jr. Vincenzo “Vinnie Meatballs” Bronzino John “Johnny Bananas” Sciarotta Joseph “Joe D” Di Stefano Eugene “Genie Boy” Baratta Joseph “Joey the Trash Man” Tringali Isodoro “Teddy San Diego” Matranga (CAL) Peter “Pete the Clown” Leonardo Louis “Butch” Stramaglia Greektown Mike Katranis (in charge of Greektown) William "Billy Lee" Loiacano (FL-inactive) Joseph "Joe Gravel" Gargalino (FL-Retired) Great list BlackJack. I've also read about Girolamo"Mimmo" D'Anna and Guiseppe "Joe" D'Anna as being Detroit's main connection to Italy through their cousin Salvatore D'anna. I agree that they may be small as a family but the ones moving up are carrying some serious clout. As with all families you have the cunning silent types and the fuckin maniacs. These guys are clearly the maniacs. http://www.sourcenewspapers.com/articles/2013/03/07/news/doc5137d05e9da2d770356725.txt"The two Shelby Township brothers indicted last month by a federal grand jury in connection to the baseball bat-beating of a rival restaurant owner have ties to alleged Sicilian Mafia figures in Italy and should be considered dangerous, according to federal prosecutors. Giuseppe D'Anna, aka "Joe," 60, and Girolamo D'Anna, aka "Mimmo," 48, are the cousins of Salvatore D'Anna, who the U.S. Justice Department says is a boss of a crime family in Terrasini, Italy. Both of the D'Annas and Ventimiglia were born and raised in Terrasini, Italy, court records show. "According to the latest documents, the D'Anna brothers were upset that the owners of Nonna's Kitchen had not sought and received permission from them prior to opening the restaurant in 2009. At the time, Giuseppe D'Anna's wife owned Tiramisu Italian Ristorante across the street. The feds say the D'Annas made it known the victim's family would be subject to the punishment of the Sicilian Mafia if he proceeded with the opening. Two years later, when Nonna's was undergoing an expansion in 2011, the D'Annas entered the restaurant one night. While Girolama D'Anna distracted the victim, Giuseppe D'Anna entered and struck the owner 11 times with a baseball bat, leaving him with a closed head injury, broken jaw and other injuries." So you're saying the Detroit family have ties to Italy, based on what?  All they've got left is gambling and loansharking, mid level I'd imagine aswell. The D'Anna brothers have been proven to be low level enforcers, nothing more.
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Re: Detroit isn't that active...why the full admin?
[Re: TommyGambino]
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12/13/14 09:51 AM
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SinatraClub
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First post here boys..... so go easy! Pretty much what it says on the tin really...if Detroit are not as active like some of you are saying, then why have they got a full adminstration and 5 capo's. Surely for a family not up to much, thats a bit over kill no? I would advise using the search function before bringing this up, which will just start an argument with the same people that say Detroit is dead. They are more active than you think. Also, regardless of numbers they have more admin spots than NY traditionally does, for insulation purposes. But you obviously have already formed your opinion with statements such as "surely for a family not up to much". You sound pretty confident in this. Anyway here is roughly how it looks today. Administration Boss – Jack “Jackie the Kid/The Bathrobe” Giacalone Underboss – Anthony “Chicago Tony/Tony Lop/The Loli-Pop” La Piana Consiglieri – Anthony “Tony Pal/The Butterfly” Palazzola Street Boss – Peter “Specs/Blackie” Tocco Counselor emeritus: Giacomo “Black Jack” Tocco, Joseph "Joe Hooks" Mirabile, Dominic "Uncle Dom" Bommarito Capos David “Davey Donuts” Aceto Joseph “Joey Jack/Joe Vine” Giacalone Joseph “Joe the Hood” D’Anna Paul “Big Paulie” Corrado Antonino “Tony the Extermintor” Ruggirello (coming out of retirement for short-term stint until La Piana names an official successor as boss of his crew, the former Meli crew) “Soldiers” Anthony “Tony Z” Zerilli (inactive/shelved) Vito Tocco Salvatore “Mops/Junior” Tocco Jack “Little Jackie/Miami Jack” Tocco, Jr. (part of the year in FL) Anthony “Nino/Smitty” Tocco Anthony “Little Tony/Little Tawncy” Tocco, Jr. (part of the year in FL) Joseph “Joe T” Tocco Peter “Fat Pete” Corrado Peter “Baby Bull” Corrado Paul “Cousin Paulie/the Fixer” Corrado Anthony “Nino” Corrado Dominic “Chicago Dom” Corrado (CHI-NW IN) Joseph “Joe White” Giacalone (Flint) Jack “Jackie the Nose” Giacalone (FL) Vincent “Vinnie Jack” Giacalone Dominic “Fat Dom” Rubino Peter “Petey Boy” Messina Joseph “Jo Jo” Messina Joseph "Joe the Clipper" Barbara, Jr. (semi-retired, sometimes looked to for counsel by admin) Dominic “Big Dom” Vivio (shelved-PITT) Frank “Frankie the Bomb” Bommarito (semi-active) Robert “Bobby the Animal” La Puma Gerard Di Michelle Sam Ventilmiglia (TX) Anthony Rugerio Patrick Rugerio Antonio “Toto” Ruggirello Anthony “Little Tony Long” Cimini, Jr. Anthony “Little Tony Razz” Randazo Jr, Girolamo “Mimmo” D’Anna Salvatore “Sparky” Palazzola, Jr. Vincenzo “Vinnie Meatballs” Bronzino John “Johnny Bananas” Sciarotta Joseph “Joe D” Di Stefano Eugene “Genie Boy” Baratta Joseph “Joey the Trash Man” Tringali Isodoro “Teddy San Diego” Matranga (CAL) Peter “Pete the Clown” Leonardo Louis “Butch” Stramaglia Greektown Mike Katranis (in charge of Greektown) William "Billy Lee" Loiacano (FL-inactive) Joseph "Joe Gravel" Gargalino (FL-Retired) Great list BlackJack. I've also read about Girolamo"Mimmo" D'Anna and Guiseppe "Joe" D'Anna as being Detroit's main connection to Italy through their cousin Salvatore D'anna. I agree that they may be small as a family but the ones moving up are carrying some serious clout. As with all families you have the cunning silent types and the fuckin maniacs. These guys are clearly the maniacs. http://www.sourcenewspapers.com/articles/2013/03/07/news/doc5137d05e9da2d770356725.txt"The two Shelby Township brothers indicted last month by a federal grand jury in connection to the baseball bat-beating of a rival restaurant owner have ties to alleged Sicilian Mafia figures in Italy and should be considered dangerous, according to federal prosecutors. Giuseppe D'Anna, aka "Joe," 60, and Girolamo D'Anna, aka "Mimmo," 48, are the cousins of Salvatore D'Anna, who the U.S. Justice Department says is a boss of a crime family in Terrasini, Italy. Both of the D'Annas and Ventimiglia were born and raised in Terrasini, Italy, court records show. "According to the latest documents, the D'Anna brothers were upset that the owners of Nonna's Kitchen had not sought and received permission from them prior to opening the restaurant in 2009. At the time, Giuseppe D'Anna's wife owned Tiramisu Italian Ristorante across the street. The feds say the D'Annas made it known the victim's family would be subject to the punishment of the Sicilian Mafia if he proceeded with the opening. Two years later, when Nonna's was undergoing an expansion in 2011, the D'Annas entered the restaurant one night. While Girolama D'Anna distracted the victim, Giuseppe D'Anna entered and struck the owner 11 times with a baseball bat, leaving him with a closed head injury, broken jaw and other injuries." So you're saying the Detroit family have ties to Italy, based on what?  All they've got left is gambling and loansharking, mid level I'd imagine aswell. The D'Anna brothers have been proven to be low level enforcers, nothing more. He himself didn't say the D'Anna's had ties to Italy, the article did. Scott's also said the same thing in the not too distant past. As of 2013, they still had relatives who are big in the LCN world back in Sicily. They're dad or uncle is a big don in Terresini. Calogero or Girolamo D'Anna or something. Salvatore D'Anna, apparently is or was the boss of a Terrasini crime family as well, and he's their cousin. As far as a low level enforcers go, sources says they head the Zip faction of that tiny little, defunct crime family. And someone asked a few pages back where these guys would recruit from. I don't know this for a fact, but again sources, and some pretty reliable people from the city itself and also who refer to themselves as "LCN insiders" or "researchers", claim there are 200-250 thousand Italians in the Metro Detroit area, many of them are Sicilian. Credit goes to the Real Deal forum for a lot of that information and posters like mcscott and Double Zee.
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Re: Detroit isn't that active...why the full admin?
[Re: LuanKuci]
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12/14/14 12:04 PM
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Terence
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as I've stated few posts up the d'annas do have connections
with this being said, their lineage alone doesn't automatically mean that they hold any high-ranking LCN role either in the usa and/or italy.
nor that detroit's lot have transnational connections
keep in mind that the d'annas in terrasini are a small-time family in a small seaside town
once again this is a duo of street hoods
they're muscle-material...nothing more than that
stop day dreaming about it Thank you for the insight LuanKuci. I enjoy reading your posts about matters such as this and I feel that you have a lot to offer this forum but I have to ask. How in the fuck am I daydreaming? I posted a very simple reply based on a topic that we BOTH agree on (for the most part). I never at any point glorified the connection, simply stated that it was there.
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Re: Detroit isn't that active...why the full admin?
[Re: TommyGambino]
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12/15/14 05:50 PM
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I don't think he's a troll. You two just don't see eye to eye, that doesn't make him a troll. A troll is someone who usually posts non-sense or things that are completely random in the sake of getting a reaction out of the forum. I've never seen Blackjack do any of those things. Nothing to do with seeing eye to eye. He's clearly a fucking idiot, everything I've said about him is 100% correct. Anyone who makes things up to deflect attention away from himself is a troll in my eyes. You are clearly a low life, who looks at LCN from another country, worshiping AMerica while your panties are wet. You are honestly, an absolute joke when it comes to LCN.
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Re: Detroit isn't that active...why the full admin?
[Re: SinatraClub]
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12/15/14 05:53 PM
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He himself didn't say the D'Anna's had ties to Italy, the article did. Scott's also said the same thing in the not too distant past.
As of 2013, they still had relatives who are big in the LCN world back in Sicily. They're dad or uncle is a big don in Terresini. Calogero or Girolamo D'Anna or something. Salvatore D'Anna, apparently is or was the boss of a Terrasini crime family as well, and he's their cousin.
As far as a low level enforcers go, sources says they head the Zip faction of that tiny little, defunct crime family.
And someone asked a few pages back where these guys would recruit from. I don't know this for a fact, but again sources, and some pretty reliable people from the city itself and also who refer to themselves as "LCN insiders" or "researchers", claim there are 200-250 thousand Italians in the Metro Detroit area, many of them are Sicilian.
Credit goes to the Real Deal forum for a lot of that information and posters like mcscott and Double Zee. The entire Detroit family as a whole may not have connections, but the D'Anna's definetly do. How far that extends to Detroit, I don't know. But to dismiss them having any Zip connection, is silly and uninformed. Much like people from Nottingham.
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Re: Detroit isn't that active...why the full admin?
[Re: Blackjack2121]
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12/16/14 12:01 PM
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I don't think he's a troll. You two just don't see eye to eye, that doesn't make him a troll. A troll is someone who usually posts non-sense or things that are completely random in the sake of getting a reaction out of the forum. I've never seen Blackjack do any of those things. Nothing to do with seeing eye to eye. He's clearly a fucking idiot, everything I've said about him is 100% correct. Anyone who makes things up to deflect attention away from himself is a troll in my eyes. You are clearly a low life, who looks at LCN from another country, worshiping AMerica while your panties are wet. You are honestly, an absolute joke when it comes to LCN. Coming from a guy who fantasises about small families being big.
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Re: Detroit isn't that active...why the full admin?
[Re: LuanKuci]
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12/17/14 09:59 PM
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it wasn't meant to you in particular just a way of saying that -sometimes- we fall to believe things are on a higher layer than what they really are.
this family has people doing that y'know which is more than understandable given how little current info is out there on them
besides, welcome to the forums terence Thank you LuanKuci. I totally agree and really enjoy the forum so far. Cheers!
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Re: Detroit isn't that active...why the full admin?
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12/18/14 09:52 AM
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@Dellacroce
A lot of the names on that list are relatives, it isn't that hard believe that a handful of them would be involved in the family. I don't think that chart separates who are for sure button men and those who are merely associates, considering that, those numbers look about right. Also consider many of the names on that list, it's said that they're either semi-active, shelved, or completely retired. Again, considering that, you remove those names, that list gets smaller. And the numbers still seem about right, after all that.
And yes, before that chart was posted, the same people in this thread disputing it now, were saying the family was defunct.
And that recent article is another good article about Detroit LCN.
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