Haven't read that yet but I have About 10 books being delivered from Amazon. Anyone read deal with the devil. With Greg scarpa. I'm reading mob killer right now about Charles Carnegia.

Anybody read Mafia Summit yet? I should have that delivered in the next couple days.

yes, ive read it, its a factual story of appalachin who was there, who was arrested, what they were there for, I think you will like it for its take on the event itself.

the guy that wrote it did a lot of research. good read.

Read about 40 pages in, then stopped and left it for another day. No idea, it just got a little too factual and boring... some pages were just FBI memos and documents. However, I liked the idea that A LOT of info came from him, not Valachi.. and was then put in Valachi's mouth.

Speaking of the "Deal with the devil" book, there is one thing that interested me for years, yet almost nobody seems to have an opinion on the subject: did Scarpa indeed frame Orena and Amato for the Ocera hit he had done himself, did he frame them for something THEY had actually done but used fabricated evidence / perjured testimony or were Orena and Amato guilty as charged? The book supports the idea that they were indeed innocent and framed, but what about the tape where Bonfiglio was ranting about not being rewarded by Amato for his role in the hit? The book "conveniently" says nothing about it. Could it be possible that Orena, Amato and Scarpa were in it together and Scarpa later laid blame on the accomplices? But the book suggests Orena and Scarpa hated each other, no way would they conspire together.
What do you think?

Thank you for replies. Looking forward to reading them.

I also read the book about scarpa, it says he helped the FBI in the case of the 3 civil rights workers who were murdered in Mississippi in 1964.

it didn't happen, therefore I think much of his book is B.S. but he did help a great deal in winning the war of the columbos for snake persico, he was a one man wrecking machine. but, don't take everything he says as gospel.

No one's read Hammer Conspiracies, its $100 and really old. I bet there is some cool stuff in there...might get it with next paycheck.

I just finished "DeCarlo" about the Buffalo NY mob. Wow what a book. One of the most well researched books I have ever read. I probably liked it more than most people would as I knew a lot of the people mentioned there. While I knew my wife's next door neighbor was allegedly mobbed up we did not know he was a capo. The guy who lived three doors away was a loan shark who by the way played the sax at my wedding reception. Eve if you don't have any connection to Buffalo, this is a great book and would make a great addition to any "Mob library" and is available on Kindle

Cool, I will check this out soon.

I posted a link to an online free copy of "brotherhood" which is the bust of carracapa and Epolito. IT's in the most recent "casso" thread.

I also just finished Takedown - which is about busting up the garbage cartel in the 90s. Genovese and Gambino stuff.

I thought both books were informative. It's interesting to read books by the "other side". Most of the mob books have a lot of street talk and macho bravado. The law enforcement books call the mobsters dummies and oportunists, etc.

But, there is good bit of embellishing and macho bravado from the cops/detectives too. Especially in Takedown.

OVerall very good. both had good subject matter

sounds great, im going to get it.

Hey! It was me that posted that link to the free copy of Brotherhoods!

I demand a sit down.

hey, moe, whatever happened to the murdering cops caccartara, and Epilitto?

They're serving life sentences.

did john jr book drop today I tried to look on amazon nothing figured I could take a look inside read a couple free pages 500+ jr telling some things. I read in the paper he talks about chin how his father would never act like him. I was thing jr was gonna steer clear of any talk about bosses that still have friends and family active. wonder what he says on vic and gas and massino. probably gonna be interesting. wonder if he talks about his days as acting boss for 6yrs. longer then his dad was boss on the street.

I thought the scarpa book is great if you want to no the complete history of the Colombo family. its fact filled maybe a little boring here and there but there probably never been a bigger informant in the mafia. you think about it there was probably a scarpa in all the boros/families. Gambino had 250 guys in 1980 1 or2 must have been feeding the gov.

"Get back in your hole Davey!!!" - Tony Soprano.

Far be it from me to take credit for another man's offerings. THat would not be COSA NOSTRA of me.

I imagine Phil Leonetti cutting his meatball into quarters and uncle Nicky looking down his nose at him: "Philip, we cut them in half! Definitely not cosa nostra!"

The Frank Lino testimony of the 3 Capos Murder in King of the Godfather's is gripping.

Aside from Bruno Indelicato, Tommy Pitera was the only ally of the 3 Capos who refused to meet Massino in the aftermath of the murder.

Just got a bunch if books delivered. Just wrapped up mafia summit and mob killer. I was wondering if someone could suggest my next read. This what's in my lineup for now.

Mob Boss. Al D'Arco
Boss of Bosses Paul Castellano
For the sins of my father Al DeMeo
Deal with the Devil. Greg Scarpa
Mafia Dynasty Rise and Fall of Gambino Family
King of the Godfathers. Joe Massino
The Enforcer. Anthony Spilotro

Gonna order some more. Anybody have suggestions on what to order next.
I'm out on injury from work so I got a lot of time on my hands lol.

If anybody is interested in reading the first ever book on Youngstown, OH, try reading Crimetown USA from 1933-1963 by Allan May. Part 2 being written now from 1963-1999

http://www.amazon.com/Crimetown-U-S-A-Mahoning-Organized-1933-1963/dp/0983703752

I finished King of the Godfathers.

I enjoyed it but I think DeStefano would have been better condensing and combining the material from the Massino and Basciano books.

Not enough time was spent covering Massino co-operating and betraying Basciano.

And I haven't read the Basciano book but I am going to guess that there was barely enough material for a book solely about him.

I just bought the Gotti Book read a little bit of it. Was thinking of getting American Desperado I haven't heard one bad review about it. Maybe I'll get this book instead or both. Sick of this NY Stuff.

Fantastic history of OC in Youngstown, where Pittsburgh/Cleveland/Detroit/Buffalo all had representatives in the Youngstown area throughout 1940's-1960's until Pittsburgh & Cleveland went to war in 1977 for total control of the lucrative Youngstown rackets. The war lasted 5 years, left alot of bodies and Pittsburgh moved into Youngstown and parts of Cleveland after the upper echelon of Cleveland went to prison.

A few other books to try:

1. Corn Sugar and Blood- The Rise and Fall of the Cleveland Mafia by Rick Porello

http://www.amazon.com/The-Rise-Fall-Clev...43JNJZ6DH1T5QXQ

2. To Kill the Irishman: The War that Crippled the Mafia- by Rick Porello

http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Irishman-that...easin=966250893

3. Superthief by Rick Porello-

http://www.amazon.com/Superthief-Master-...6HHQM5WY2Q4HRMY

4. Brancato: Mafia Street Boss by Frank Monastra (The Story of Frank Brancato)

http://www.amazon.com/Brancato-Mafia-Str...6HHQM5WY2Q4HRMY

5. Inside the Vault-The True Story of a Master Bank Burglar by Amil Dinsio

http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Vault-Story...G9QBSM1BCFRWR1V

6. The Sly-Fanner Murders: The Birth of the Mayfield Road Mob; Cleveland's Most Notorious Mafia Gang

http://www.amazon.com/Sly-Fanner-Murders...easin=983703744

**If you're going to read these books, read them in the order I have attached them as alot of the books build off of Rick Porello's first book, Corn, Sugar & Blood

I haven't read either of them yet but I am surprised that Vinnie got a whole book.
Anyone read that Vinnie Basciano book yet? Any good?

Anyone know why the Before Bruno books seem to be so expensive. Its either the 1st or the 3rd not 100% sure. But haven't be able to find it for under 60 dollars.

I thought the Vinny b book was solid. You want to know what happens after Massimo its there. There not a lot of wire tap shit cause he was very smart when it came to taps wires. Mostly his trials. And cicale. I rather read from destefano then you know who.

It was about 250 pages into the Massino book before you got to the Basciano stuff.

He could easily have waited on that for a year or two, fleshed it out instead of rushing it and then you have a 400-450 page book that isn't too long and isn't too short.

It needed a better resolution.

I was just looking on Amazon. I don't know why the hell it's so expensive. I think there are 3 before Bruno books and that one is the most expensive.

Wow...I just saw this..I'll def. pick up one of these. Thank You so Much Oscar.