I know it sounds hackneyed but Charles Carneglia truly looks like a psychopath.

read 20 page online,not bad.Those East NY guys are all crazy.His brother John was acctually a stand up guy,he owned a junk yard on fountain ave,east ny.

Just got an e mail from Ed Scarpa that hes doing a book on Frank Gangi, Tommy Pitaro's former partner. This ought to be interesting. He did a good job on his first book.

I have this downloaded to my Kindle but have not read it yet. I just recently finished Vinny Gourgeous: ( Anthony M. Destephano). It was good, it kept me interested.

I am now reading Mob Boss: Capeci, really good. I like hearing the stories of how the older guys came up, even their very yound memories and story of growing up.

I am seing a few other books mentioned in this thread I will try.

I want to read Murder Machine but have been waiting for it to come to kindle.
I dont think that is going to happen so I plan on picking up a copy.

DP

Didn't most of the stuff on Phil Carlo's book come from Gangi and that DEA agent? Obviously it can't be much worse than his book, but I'm not getting my hopes up.. Gangi's story is already well-known.



He's your regular Charles Manson lookalike.

You mean Ed Leiber? Leiber's his real name. In reality, he's about as Italian as Chef Boyardee. The guy is a no-talent fraud. That he gave Dom Cicale a soapbox to stand on speaks volumes about his character.

He's also a coward in my book because he just outed one of his old sources who was supposedly an ex-cop. As is turns out, the guy wasn't a cop a all. Just some lonely Internet nobody trying to feel important online.

But that's not the point because Scarpa/Leiber claimed on his blog that the guy called him him hysterical crying---like a little girl---when he was outed for lying about his law enforcement past. Leiber later deleted the entire entry (as he often does when he's caught lying, etc.). But the damage was already done.

You seem like a nice guy, Big Boy. I'd stay clear of that asshole if I were you. If he ever got a hold of your personal information there's no telling what he might do with it.

Pizzaboy- Thanks for your good advice and kind words. I am glad you are back on the net as you seem to always come up with good information. Have a great new year.

It's Pizza yayyyy pizza is back in town how I've missed u my friend
Good advice. Stay clear of that guy. Hope you are getting better BigBoy. I know you mentioned you had surgery.

Ed Lieber I cannot stand that guy. He's the reason why I changed my name and stopped posting on the other site. The guy used my video in one of his lame blogs without my permission. I had it out with him on that other gangsters site but have since deleted my comments. What a douchebag that guy is!!!!!

Hey I hear DomWoods is gonna buy us all copies of Scarpo/Lieber's book
ha ha I know how much he can't stand him either

(Sorry Dom but I couldn't resist)

I don't think even his alias last name "Scarpo" is Italian.. if so it's gotta be a very unpopular name, it's certainly one that I've never heard before. Scarpa, or Scarfo then that's a different story

You hit it right on the head, buddy. His pen name (even though he swears it's not), is a composite between Scarfo and Scarpa. It's as transparent as Scotch tape.

He's Jewish---and I LOVE the Jews. Of all the European immigrants that came here with our grandparents, we have the most in common with the Jews: Food, family and guilt .

My Mother used to say that except for Jesus and pork chops, the Jews are just like us .

But the fact that Leiber LIES about his heritage displays a self-hate that makes me respect him even less than I already do.

Where did he post, RD?

Lol eff that guy, he's a joke. Ed "Scarpa" isn't his real name, and Dom Cicale is full of as much shit as he is.

Almost finished For the Sins of My Father by Albert De Meo.

I haven't really enjoyed this as much as I thought I would. It is a bit of a slog to get through. There is nothing earth shattering here. A lot of tedium. It's only 270 odd pages long too, so there is no reason why the subject matter should be inducing boredom.

Some of what he says doesn't really ring true for me either, like when he tries to portray himself as some kind of victim and portrays the feds in an unflattering light. And I'm kind of suspicious of the story about Senter & Testa running him off the road and pistol whipping him too. It's very convenient that it was his best friend - who just happened to be driving by - who was the one who found him.

And the anecdote about him intimidating Senter in a restaurant? Please. As if Senter would be f***ing scared of De Meo. His father was a feared guy but I don't think his son was cut out for this.

Some of the stories I just mentioned sounded like padding out the book and adding excitement where there is none.

If I had to rate it, I would probably give it 2.5/5

Hackneyed and poorly written. Hopefully Gangbusters & King of the Godfathers will be better.

I liked it, plenty of stuff sounded a lot more believable than some stuff in Murder Machine/Dom Montiglio's version of the events.
Not very entertaining as a book by any means, but for us who are interested in the story, it was pretty solid, imo.

I believe the story of Joey and Anthony running him off the road after he called Nino Gaggi to ask him about guns Roy kept hidden, telling him he knew who his father's killers were... stupid move and he got more than a smack in the mouth. The injuries were serious enough that they required plenty of surgeries and it was a miracle his eye survived. They pretty much left him for dead and bleeding, though I doubt they wanted him dead... I think they wouldn't care much either way.
He didn't really intimidate Anthony, he just spotted him in a table nearby while Anthony was spying at him... he went over and said hi and Anthony apparently went pale because it was a pretty awkward situation.. maybe he did exaggerate it a bit, who knows?

I disagree about the feds, they did in fact harass him continuously and made his life a living hell, even though he was barely 17 when his dad was whacked. I wouldn't say those kind of actions are beneath the feds in any way.. they had it in for him and wanted him to flip. He's lucky they didn't railroad him and put him in jail for a couple of months/year on some bullshit charge. Regardless, it did have its weak points obviously but I'd give it a 3.5/5 easily.

Moe, we seem to be reading the same books the last couple of weeks.. I'm also planning to start King of Godfathers and then maybe Mob Star about Gotti.

Reading Dicarlo, the first family of Buffalo. The most comphrehensive mob book I've ever read. Great research, great information. Stops to actually humanize the characters and the environment they live in.

Available on Kindle, I am going to put this on the list for next after the book I'm reading now. Thanks for the recommendation.

DP

The thing about murder machine is although its a great book it suffers from being partly narrated from montiglios perspective. Gaggi must have hated the way he turned out, a junkie. For the Sins of My father..i think its pretty interesting but nothing Near MM.

While enjoying the holidays I went through "accardo the genuine godfather" by Roemer once again. Roemers sidestories and namedropping aside, its a must read If you are interested in the history of the outfit. Just take the story when mad Sam Stefano urinates in roemers coffee and roemer is thinking "well them italian roasted beans are sure tasting weird", haha.

Binders "Chicago outfit" i enjoyed, russos "The outfit" i found a bit boring. "The boys in Chicago heights was great. would love if someone wrote "the definitive work" on the different street crews, something in the style of 5 families ny raab but on Chicago.

Or is there already something out there that I have missed?

I just finished "the mob and the city" by alex hortis. he has been on this site a number of times, its a very good read, and he has done a lot of research. published just last spring.

Binnie, I know you really enjoy reading. Can you name your top 10 Mob books?

ive read "joey" its the best book out there about joey gallo, he was not a smart man, he did 9 years in the joint because of his many foulups.

Barrett, based on your positive comments about this book and the fact that I used to live in Buffalo, I bought this book on Kindle. Have read the first few chapters and agree- It's a great book. I like the way it starts out with the author meeting DiCarlo at Santaserio's restaurant/bar. I've eaten there many times. Thanks

This is a great Thread, I read the post's like a wish list of books.

Thanks.

DP

I'm looking for a good book on the Outfit after reading two of Roemer's books, which were good in some aspects but extremely spotty in others, should I try and get Russo's 'Outfit', or the Calabrese book, or perhaps another that I'm not aware of?

Thanks guys

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ok, ill give it a shot, some are rather old but, they were good, can't remember all the authors though'

"the don" by William brashler about sam giancana.
"joey" by goddard, about joey gallo
"the pleasant avenue connection" cant recall author.
"the mob and the city" alex hortis.
"contract on America" by david scheim, about jfk and Marcello
"the quiet don" author can't recall, about buffalino
"the valachi papers" by peter maas.
"the last testament of lucky Luciano" by hammer and gosch.
some say this is fictionalized, but good read.
"the oufit" by gus russo. about Chicago mob.
"the last Mafioso" by ovid demaris. about frattiano.
"the green felt jungle" by demaris

ive read dozens upon dozens, still reading!

Great list Binnie. I've only read two on that list. I guess I have a lot more reading to do. Next on my list, "Joey". Thank you.

Great list. I am going to work off this.

I just received a book and think I am going to put down the Kindle for this one.

Right now I am reading, ( Mob Boss, The Life of Little Al D'Arco) on Kindle.

I have been wanting to read this new one for awhile and it just showed up on my Desk.

http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r730/Edistsew/IMG_8032_zps8d8f1855.jpg

DP

Any recommendations for any newer mafia books out there?

New York: the mob and the city - Alex hortis

anyone read this...a whopping $100+ for this book http://www.amazon.com/The-Hammer-Conspiracies-Frank-Aloi/dp/0866490469