Originally Posted By: PKDickman
Originally Posted By: thedudeabides87
Originally Posted By: PKDickman
Originally Posted By: thedudeabides87


If they have no probable cause for a K9 unit or if you refuse a search and if nothing illegal is in plain sight, it is an illegal search and seizure. Anything they find should not hold up in court.


That's not entirely true.
A dog sniffing your car from the outside requires no probable cause greater than a legitimate traffic stop.
It only becomes unreasonable if it materially lengthens the duration of the stop i.e. you have to stand around cooling your heels waiting for the dog to get there.
Illinois v Caballes

If that dog's training is up to snuff, the dog's alert is sufficient probable cause to rummage through your vehicle.

Florida v Harris




Thank you for correcting me. That would explain why you see dogs at immigration and DUI checkpoints. I guess what it comes down to is, if they do not have probable cause what is an unreasonable amout of time


I'm not sure on the time limit, but I imagine it's different if you're trying to beat a speeding ticket or get a trunk full of weed excluded.


The time limit is the time it takes to run your tags and write a ticket. I got this from information from a family member who practiced law for 30 years before being elected as a judge. I had an interesting conversation with this person last night about the 4th amendment, drug sniffing dogs, DUI checkpoints and immigration checkpoints

Supreme Court Transcipts
Interesting read


The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man.
Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?


Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life